Dream Theater - Octavarium
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Kenneth R.
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Wowowowowow....Silent Song said:
I don't mind calling The dance of Eternity/Metropolis Pt.1/The Glass Prison/whatever DT song wankery but definitely not Erotomania.
It's the most intelligent and fully-packed-with-great-ideas Instrumental piece of music I've ever heard. To just call it wankery is simply stupid. Take a closer listen.
I also found another possibility of the basis of "Octavarium", which is a reference to the octaves, as in notes for each part of the song. Seems somewhat reasonable listening to the song, but I can't say for sure since I'm not a musician. If that's the story, then DT is brilliant.
Yngvai X
Dark Emperor
sknight said:
Brilliant? Its a cute musical motif to have each song in a different key in relation to the notes that make up an octave (12 for you non musicians, 7 natural notes and 5 accidentals) but brilliant? Like they aren't the first band to do something like that (I believe I read on some satch album each successive song is in a higher key than the last or some stupid shit like that).
They should've just released the AA saga in one record and not spread it out for so long. So far all the tracks in that series have kicked the crap out of the other songs on the record.
The best song on Octavarium is Root of All Evil. Its got an "Awake" sound to it with piano snippets taken from "The Mirror."
The same trend followed on Train of Thought with This Dying Soul being the best song on the album.
But I have to admit it is clever and gives me a reason to look forward to the next album.
The best song on Octavarium is Root of All Evil. Its got an "Awake" sound to it with piano snippets taken from "The Mirror."
The same trend followed on Train of Thought with This Dying Soul being the best song on the album.
But I have to admit it is clever and gives me a reason to look forward to the next album.
Rose Immortal
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It might also help Portnoy in writing the Glass Prison series to do it over a period of time. Perhaps it makes him feel more "qualified" to take on each step in writing and be sincere about it. I totally made that up...but it might well be something he needs as a writer.
DoktorShred
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After a few listens i think i can say its absolutely awesome, but I nearly always say that when one of my favourite bands comes out with a new album, so give me a couple of months 'til i can say for sure. I don't prefer it to awake, yet, but i think it might be comparable to images and words/6 degrees in my rankings. Actually i think i prefer it to 6 degrees.
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Ahamkara said:
I think this dying soul is, and is generally considered by a lot of DT fans, one of the worst songs of ToT. I don't particularly dislike it but i think nearly all the other songs are better than it.
Androz
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Dark Lucidity
Wrath
where are you guys finding this album >< ?
I didnt like this dying soul after about a month.. at first it was cool but the end goes on a little too long
kinda like endless sacrifice leading into the last vocal part. goes on and on and on and on and on... ><
I didnt like this dying soul after about a month.. at first it was cool but the end goes on a little too long
kinda like endless sacrifice leading into the last vocal part. goes on and on and on and on and on... ><TDS is awful. Absolutely awful, except to the DT fanboys, which are akin to the Queensryche fanboys that actually pay to go on the QR forum.
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Yngtchie Blacksteen said:
I dunno but for some reason I just didnt like his vocals on that album, I'm not really into the high vocals thing but I don't really mind it on other dt albums just for reason on awake.
Oh and to the guy talking about technical wankery, I find it ironic how you are posting on the symphony x board, I mean I love this band to death but for someone for is annoyed by this type of thing Symphony X do it alot more than Dt in my opinon.
kazahana
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I massively disagree. Pinnella is a celibate nun who would rather implode than touch her genitalia compared to Rudess in terms of wankery. Similarly Romeo is far more reserved than Petrucci, and I say this as a fan of both bands.The Minds Eye said:Oh and to the guy talking about technical wankery, I find it ironic how you are posting on the symphony x board, I mean I love this band to death but for someone for is annoyed by this type of thing Symphony X do it alot more than Dt in my opinon.
But back to Octavarium. I've only given it a few listens, but I think it will certainly be a classic album. I can't really comment on individual tracks yet because I haven't listened thoroughly enough, but my favourites are probably These Walls and the title track.
unknown
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I'm listening to the album for the first time, and I'm definitely enjoying it much more than ToT. It's more focused and better written
HeroBoy
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Enough complaining about "wankery" already. Emotion is a part of music but technique is as well. The two work together, and occasionally alone.
The pure intellectual appreciation of complex and difficult passages is not subordinate to the emotional appreciation of a beautiful melodic line.
If you don't like technique to be an equal part of the music--and I mean for its own sake, not merely as a prop for lyrics or so-called 'emotional content'--then maybe progressive metal isn't your choicest milieu.
The pure intellectual appreciation of complex and difficult passages is not subordinate to the emotional appreciation of a beautiful melodic line.
If you don't like technique to be an equal part of the music--and I mean for its own sake, not merely as a prop for lyrics or so-called 'emotional content'--then maybe progressive metal isn't your choicest milieu.
The jibbrish you posted amounts to pointing out that you're a malaka.
People like the music for their own reasons, period.
People like the music for their own reasons, period.
Snowmaker
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I need to give it another listen, but I liked it on its first listen. Not as much as my first listen of TOT though.
There is no such thing as a bad DT album. Even my least favorite, 6DOIT, I'll listen to now and again.
There is no such thing as a bad DT album. Even my least favorite, 6DOIT, I'll listen to now and again.
Rifugium
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Snowmaker
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Rifugium said:
Is that what they're doing over there if you mention that you have the leaked copy?
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