Elite Audience?

INFINITE-DREAMS said:
I DON'T THINK TICKET'S ARE THAT BAD, YOUR PAYING FOR 10 BANDS, SOME YOU LIKE AND SOME YOU DON'T. I'M GOING TO SEE ANTHRAX TONIGHT, $25 FOR A TICKET, THERE ARE FOUR BANDS ON THE BILL, I ONLY WANT TO SEE ANTHRAX. TO ME THAT'S WORTH IT. I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE HOW SOME BANDS MAKE ANY MONEY WHEN THEIR SHOWS ARE ONLY $15, LIKE COB FOR THEIR UPCOMING TOUR.
I HAVE BEEN TO PROGPOWER SINCE 3 AND I CONTINUE TO TRUST GLEEN AND ENJOY THE WEEKEND. BETWEEN TRAVEL, CD SHOPPING, AND TIME OFF I SPEND $1800 EACH YEAR AND WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT A GREAT FESTIVAL. THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR HARD WORK GLENN!
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$13/band for a GB? Count me in! In a different thread, I mentioned 3 bands I wasn't that jazzed about seeing. Out of 60(!), that's a damned good percentage! When you combine the fest, the shopping, and hanging out with folks you only see onec a year, it's the ultimate vacation. Yeah, I miss my week of musky fishing every year, but damn, this is just as much fun!

J-Dubya:rock:
 
Well how about you act like an adult, and write in a text that is easier for people to read? And for the user above you, there is NO way a festival with 35k has as much atmosphere as this show.
 
Hey Glenn,

For what it's worth, I think you're doing a helluva job with this whole thing. And these people who are nit-picking don't stop to realize how much work it is, and how cool of an event it also is. Not many people would be able to pull this kinda event off once, let alone 7 times.

If you've got a problem with the event, then don't go! There's plenty of people who will glady purchase the tickets you don't buy. And Glenn will be none worse for the wear, and actually will end up with a happier situation, because there'll be less people bitching and more people enjoying all the good he does for us.







Now... let's have 2 more bands! :rock:
 
Wow!.... This is just fucking amazing. You know, I stumbled across this festival by accident back at PPII and except for PPIII, I go every year now. I have friends and/or family that would love to go, but can't afford it. Such is life! The difference between them and some people is they don't jump on this forum and whine about it.....I often enjoy reading posts on this forum, but have only just started posting myself. I sometimes wonder why people would even share this kind of info. I guess somewhere there's a forum for the superbowl, and somebody whinning cause they can't afford it. Stay home!

Glenn, thanks for what you do. PPUSA gets better every year, one way or another.
 
Yes Glenn does the best job of putting on this event, there is no one to compare to him and if don't believe it look at the liner notes on CDs of bands that have played there in the past. They ALL say thanks to Glenn Haverston and ProgPower USA. Now that is what it is all about.

To be honest this will be my first PP i missed all the other due to traveling outside the USA with my company and i missed last year's due to a promotion, but i have meet so many awesome people on here, and i can't wait to met them in person(Sh0kr0k, Unca Kev, pollution, 13shadesof gray, General ZOD, Yardley Bates, Fates Fan Cruifin and any other i have forgotton) we will party hardy this year, no holes barred
 
Sumeet said:
The cost of all those bands appearing is not covered solely by ticket revenue... a good number of the bands have private sponsors who contribute significant amounts towards the cost of their appearance at ProgPower.
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Still, it is a lot of money!
And i am sure there are some other forms of revenue... And Glenn probably doesn't spend a dime in plane tickets for some of the opening bands, etc.. But the cost is still VERY high for an event for such a small number of people..
 
I think atmosphere is purely a subjective thing and depends entirely on what you want out of it. I can see where somene that wanted a high energy, grand scale thing would much prefer something like Wacken. After all, that is a bigger stage, more bands, more vendors, and more people. It's great when thousands of people are going *nuts* for a band that you love. On the flip side, the majority of my audience prefers the intimate approach as they feel closer to the bands (especially essentially hanging out with them) without the stress of battling 35K to take a piss or get a beer.

Different strokes...

Glenn H.
 
To everyone,

I appreciate everyone coming to my defense. It shows just how dedicated you are to the event. However, as long as someone has constructive criticism, it should be met with a constructive answer. If someone continues to gripe even after an explanation is given in a crappy manner, then feel free to unleash hell.

Glenn H
 
Harvester said:
I think atmosphere is purely a subjective thing and depends entirely on what you want out of it. I can see where somene that wanted a high energy, grand scale thing would much prefer something like Wacken. After all, that is a bigger stage, more bands, more vendors, and more people. It's great when thousands of people are going *nuts* for a band that you love. On the flip side, the majority of my audience prefers the intimate approach as they feel closer to the bands (especially essentially hanging out with them) without the stress of battling 35K to take a piss or get a beer.

Different strokes...

Glenn H.
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Oh completely, Glenn.

I wasn't saying that one type of festival had more atmosphere per se, than any other type of festival, ProgPower & Wacken included. I was just saying that IMO, the myth of "atmosphere can only be generated at a smaller intimate gathering" was just that, a myth. Each can have atmosphere, both similar & different.
 
I think the word 'elite', especially in the context of the ProgPower audience, can be interpreted in different ways. I tend to think of the word exclusive or even privileged when thinking about this festival. Being involved as a fan, performer and crew member from the beginning has given me more opportunity and amazing experiences than I can even count. Its more than just a concert for most of the attendees. In fact, there was a time when almost everyone knew everyone else.

The atmosphere that Glenn has built for each and every person that attends each year is a feeling of brotherhood. A feeling of unique comeraderie that otherwise would not exist in this cold industry. Hell, when people are willing to attend this event and spend their hard earned cash, sometimes missing important events in their own lives even when they don't care for many (or any) bands on the roster is an incredible gesture to this community and really says a lot about what Glenn has been able to accomplish. As he has said many times over, this is a business first and foremost but I can tell you that he truly LOVES doing this for everyone that loves this type of music, not just himself.

With this festival he has influenced and sparked many a band and has literally lit a fire under the prog/power community. The amount of crap he has had to deal with on a daily basis just to continue to put forth his best, is unmeasurable and whatever decisions he has to make in order to keep it going is fine by me, and from what I can tell is fine by the majority of his audience as well.

Glenn deserves any and all positive things that could come from putting on such an incredible festival, and that includes profit. I understand the issues brought up in this thread and some are legitimate issues but when there are very few people willing to go through as much as Glenn has gone through for for a first class festival like PP, I think the least we can do is allow him to do what he feels is best for everyone. I also think its pretty gracious of him to even entertain the type of feedback he gets, most promoters wouldn't give a rats ass. Glenn clearly does, especially after reading this thread.

Cheers Glenn! :rock:

Joel
 
Harvester said:
To everyone,

I appreciate everyone coming to my defense. It shows just how dedicated you are to the event.
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You deserve it man! It's best festival that I know of! People wouldn't stick up for you, buy GB tix and sponsor (before they even know of all the bands), and travel such far distances and spend a lot of money to get and stay there, and give you credit in their album's liner notes, if PP wasn't the best around in quality!
Harvester said:
However, as long as someone has constructive criticism, it should be met with a constructive answer.
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It's only fair and respectful.
Harvester said:
If someone continues to gripe even after an explanation is given in a crappy manner, then feel free to unleash hell.

Glenn H
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"...come hot from hell,
Shall in these threads with an administrator's voice
Cry 'STFU,' and let slip the dogs of war!!!" :yell: Or something like that! :loco:
 
Regor said:
Hey Glenn,

For what it's worth, I think you're doing a helluva job with this whole thing. And these people who are nit-picking don't stop to realize how much work it is, and how cool of an event it also is. Not many people would be able to pull this kinda event off once, let alone 7 times.

If you've got a problem with the event, then don't go! There's plenty of people who will glady purchase the tickets you don't buy. And Glenn will be none worse for the wear, and actually will end up with a happier situation, because there'll be less people bitching and more people enjoying all the good he does for us.







Now... let's have 2 more bands! :rock:
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I don't that think Glenn (and I'm not speaking for him here) is as insulted with the post as you seem to be. You can't please everyone, but I think Glenn takes into consideration the good and the bad feedback people give him. He runs a smooth festival by keeping the things that worked and avoiding the things that didn't on a year-to-year basis; I don't think he would be able to do this as efficiently if he didn't get these sort of messages with what Joe Public didn't like. The original thread started wasn't condemning the festival as a whole, just the things he had grievances with, and I think Glenn finds these threads useful in order to clarify things not just to that one person, but to the general audience of this forum. Just my two cents...

EDIT: Just saw that Glenn posted about this, I guess I'm a couple of hours late :)
 
Wow!.... This is just fucking amazing. You know, I stumbled across this festival by accident back at PPII and except for PPIII, I go every year now. I have friends and/or family that would love to go, but can't afford it. Such is life! The difference between them and some people is they don't jump on this forum and whine about it.....I often enjoy reading posts on this forum, but have only just started posting myself. I sometimes wonder why people would even share this kind of info. I guess somewhere there's a forum for the superbowl, and somebody whinning cause they can't afford it. Stay home!

Glenn, thanks for what you do. PPUSA gets better every year, one way or another.
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As posted by Meanmistreator above, I totally agree!!! I have attended PP 2, 3, and 6. The only reason I skipped PP4 and 5 is that either I just didn't like the bands or just had to spend my money on other things. This is an *elite* festival and I truly hope it stays that way. It is just right in my book. Earthlink is the perfect venue for this thing. I can't see PP USA moving to a bigger venue and I'm glad that Glenn said he wouldn't. Remember ProgPower USA is quality event.
 
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