Favorite doom albums
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Diabolik
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Jasonic
Doom On!
I did not say they were not metal, I said they were not the genre known as "heavy metal" They are metalcore (IE - Hardcore vocals layered over chug riffing)
Jasonic
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Go ahead. That would be quite sad if you still have emails that old from me.
Also, for the MILLIONTH time, there is NO apostrophe in Novembers Doom!!!
Diabolik
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Go ahead. That would be quite sad if you still have emails that old from me.
Also, for the MILLIONTH time, there is NO apostrophe in Novembers Doom!!!
I never clean out my old sent email bin so I have stuff saved there for over 7 years. I will look tonight and prove you that I am right.
Jasonic
Doom On!
Wow, that speaks a LOT to your lifestyle if you are going to dig back through 7 years of emails.
So you seriously recall an email where I said, "Hey Novembers Doom are doom metal"????????
You seriously waste a lot of time on things not very important. Go ahead though.
So you seriously recall an email where I said, "Hey Novembers Doom are doom metal"????????
You seriously waste a lot of time on things not very important. Go ahead though.
Diabolik
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Jasonic
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Or too much time on your hands...
Go spend it watching the KING DIAMOND footage from SwedenRock instead!
well I guess "doom" is a subjective term. Some refer to Cirith Ungol as doom while other do not, I myself go either way with them. Still doom vcan even go beyond the down tune drwan out heavy slow riff; I just thought I might simply my list to some existent, besides I did say "doom metal"
agree to disagree is merely a weak way to backdown. HAHA
"dark metal" seriously man? Repeat that to yourself a few times and hear how stupid it sounds. Then put it in context of how you are using. Damn I was turning iolent every time I heard that Canadian dipshit Dunn say it. For godsake it is fuckin heavy metal must of it is DARK.
There are several things that could be argued about how My Dying Bride are doomier than Candlemass; Candlemass has pretty covers, up tempo songs, some positive lyrics (somewhat),- MDB; dark cover, all down tempo, lyrics all tranlate to doom, doo , doom.
Jasonic
Doom On!
The first time I saw the use of the term DARK METAL was from THE END RECORDS online catalog.
I think it is PERFECTLY fitting for the bands I mention who combine elements of doom, death, goth, and avante garde.
I would not call power, progressive, thrash, heavy, NWOBHM, "dark metal"
As you said, it's all subjective.
As for CANDLEMASS, I agree with you man.
I have said it MANY times. They are the "power metal" of doom bands!
Well, at least the Messiah albums are.
I think it is PERFECTLY fitting for the bands I mention who combine elements of doom, death, goth, and avante garde.
I would not call power, progressive, thrash, heavy, NWOBHM, "dark metal"
As you said, it's all subjective.
As for CANDLEMASS, I agree with you man.
I have said it MANY times. They are the "power metal" of doom bands!
Well, at least the Messiah albums are.
DMR
Not For Wimps
What difference do the vocals make? If they had a different type of singer, would they be a different genre?
DMR
Not For Wimps
Jason's dark metal genre is no less stupid or invalid than any other metal subgenre. You have no problem using the term power metal, but isn't most metal powerful? Why is calling a band dark metal stupid, but calling another band power metal isn't?
Justin G
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Because power metal is an established genre, and just about everyone understands it's definition and scope. Dark metal is much less defined, and much less understood.
Here's a test: At the next show you go to, ask random fans to name some power metal bands. Then do the same with dark metal. I'd bet 90% of those fans are going to answer "huh?" to the second question.
Justin G
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Jasonic
Doom On!
Well, for the record, in the 80s, we referred to bands like Metallica, Armored Saint, and Metal Church as "power metal"
Your average virgin pimple faced kid in a Prog Power shirt (and god bless them all!!!) wouldn't know that.
Also, who really cares how "well accepted" a genre term is?
As DMR said, there are tons of them. Some are more accepted than others.
Dark Metal combines elements of FOUR genres, which warrants its own name.
Don't agree? I don't care. You like VOLBEAT. Nuff said.
Your average virgin pimple faced kid in a Prog Power shirt (and god bless them all!!!) wouldn't know that.
Also, who really cares how "well accepted" a genre term is?
As DMR said, there are tons of them. Some are more accepted than others.
Dark Metal combines elements of FOUR genres, which warrants its own name.
Don't agree? I don't care. You like VOLBEAT. Nuff said.
Jasonic
Doom On!
Justin G
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Yes, those bands (except Metallica, of course) would have been power metal in the '80s, before Helloween and Gamma Ray reinvented the term.
And I LOVE Volbeat. They're my favorite dark metal band.
Jasonic
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Awesome!!!! I always thought I heard some goth and death in them.
I have heard some VOLBEAT. I would have LOVED them in the 90s.
If it were 10 to 15 years ago they would have been on a never ending tour with Dropkick Murphys and Flogging Molly.
I have no idea how they are marketed the way they are.
I have heard some VOLBEAT. I would have LOVED them in the 90s.
If it were 10 to 15 years ago they would have been on a never ending tour with Dropkick Murphys and Flogging Molly.
I have no idea how they are marketed the way they are.
Justin G
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I have no idea how they're marketed at all. I just know they're total road warriors, and they're doing everything they can to get heard by American audiences. And they're one of most fun bands to listen to and see live, which goes a long way with me.
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