For those who aren't Finnish

[BodomiC]

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WHO THE FUCK WHANTS TO MESS WITH ME AND MY POLAND??? SHOW YOURSELF FUCKER




Since I dont know spanish I dont know if someone said sth wrong at poland. But if someone did....

 

[Kuvasz]

Originally posted by BodomiC
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WHO THE FUCK WHANTS TO MESS WITH ME AND MY POLAND??? SHOW YOURSELF FUCKER

You ppl from Europe are very complicated!!!

Read my first post again:

Originally posted by Kuvasz
So, I love my Brasil, Chile, Trinidad & Tobago, Germany, Finland, Sierra Leone, Afghanistan, Poland ( ), Cuba, Arabia, South Africa, Moçambique, Angola, India, Tibet, Senegal, Holland and Sweden.

I wrote that I LOVE POLSKA

About what we said... even we translate, you wouldn't understand... it's a looooong story, but nothing wrong with Poland. Once again, I love Poland.

Originally posted by BodomiC
Since I dont know spanish I dont know if someone said sth wrong at poland. But if someone did....

SPANISH????

WE SPEAK PORTUGUESE!!!

 

[Ormir]

Originally posted by LunarTower
Its among my favorite countries and peoples in the world, Im all Germanic races, so I love Finland, Holland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden & Germany... and England... though thats a screwy country nowadays...

One thing has confused me about Finland though, The Lapp's, I know they we're there before the Arian peoples migrated to Scandinavia, but are they Caucasian? they actually look a bit Asian... Finland has alot of Lappish & Slavic peoples mixed in with the Arian peoples, correct? mayhaps that is why their Language is so much different than Sweden, Norway & Germany...

The Lapps come from the same racial family as the Siberians, who are related to the Mongols. Finns come from the Ladogan area, and it's postulated that they migrated north to the Baltics and Finland some 4000 years ago, in which time divergent evolution occured to the people left in the Ladogan area today. Finnish is not entirely different from the Indo-European languages, and there is indeed a large print left by Finno-Ugric on the Indo-European family. It is an entirely European language in all respects.

The print Finns have left on the Lapps is estimated to be much greater than the one they have left on Finns. Isolated in the farthest reaches of Lappland, they were greatly dependent on trading with Finns living in the south. In this time the Lapps would have probably given Finns many new words, while they themselves began speaking a form of Finnish. Today, the language of the Lapps is something of an archaic Finnish dialect.

Racially, the Lapps are almost completely caucasoid. The imprint of their mongoloid roots is quite strong in many individuals though. Due to intermarriage with Finns, many Lapps have blond or light hair.

Many resemble Finns strongly, but their tell-tale epichantic fold shows mongoloid heritage.

Finland has alot of Lappish & Slavic peoples mixed in with the Arian peoples, correct?

The Lappish mixed with Finns, making the Lapps mostly Finnish. The Finns have always greatly outnumbered the Lapps, who rarely left the north, so the genetic impact of the Lapps on Finns is minimal. Finns haven't mixed to any great extent with any Slavic peoples.

Finns are quite genetically distinct from other Europeans, even Estonians.

http://www25.brinkster.com/humanraces/calc/haplo_profiles.asp?popid=7&dbname=ychroms

This genetic distance chart shows that Finns are 61 points away from Russians. Norwegians are 31 points away from Indian Brahmins (the most dark)! Norwegians are also genetically closer to every Eastern European population than Finns are.

mayhaps that is why their Language is so much different than Sweden, Norway & Germany...

The Slavic languages are Indo-European, just like Germanic. Finnish is very far from either language group. Slavic influence on Finnish would make it more similar to Germanic languages, not different.

 

[Tut Ankh Amon]

that last post reminded me of that "arguing on the internet" picture

 

[Ormir]

I was neither arguing nor debating. If you had read or comprehended my post you would see that clearly. I was giving him information on the topic which he requested, namely Lapps. I further expanded this by going into some anthropological information on Finns, since he seemed to have some uncertainties on this topic.

Assuming you articulated yourself in a misleading way, and are actually pointing to the picture of the Lapp when making reference to the disabled boy in the image, I disagree. He doesn't look remotely like an individual suffering from Downs syndrome.

 

[LunarTower]

Thanks for the Information, Ormir. Ive always been quite interested in any information about the bloodlines of Scandinavian/Germanic people especially, its always good when I get a clear and well scripted answer, by the way that link didnt work, but If you know somewhere that I can find more information out on the mixing of the Aryo-Germanic peoples with the native tribes that inhabited modern day Iceland, UK, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Germany, Austria, Holland etc... I would greatly appreciate the effort.

 

[Ormir]

by the way that link didnt work,

First time I've seen the bandwidth limit get exceeded. I suggest you try it again at another time, it's a very good site.

If you know somewhere that I can find more information out on the mixing of the Aryo-Germanic peoples with the native tribes that inhabited modern day Iceland, UK, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Germany, Austria, Holland etc... I would greatly appreciate the effort.

There are no "native" tribes in Iceland, Norway, or Sweden. They were completely unpopulated when the people who would become the Nordics moved there. The Finns are possibly the first ones to have populated Finland in the south. Skulls from southern Finland dating back to 4500 years have been found, and they are very similar to modern Finns. The earliest signs of settlement in Lappland date back only some 3000 years. It should also be noted that the Lappish area extends into Norway and Sweden. Lapps are the only officially recognized indigenous people in Europe.

Whatever original Cro-Magnon or Neanderthal tribes existed in Western Europe have been subsumed into the current native populations. Lapps are the only remaining non-nordish people in North-Western Europe.

The term Aryo-Germanic isn't very good form. The only people to call themselves Aryan were the Aryan invaders of India and Iran. Indo-European is the general term used for the Nordish people who migrated across Europe in great numbers thousands of years ago. The least mixed remnants of them are found today in Ireland, Wales, and remote areas of Norway.

www.nordish.com is an excellent site for students of nordish anthropology.

 

[Fleischwolf]

sorry, but indo-european resembles more than just the nordish people! italians are indo-european, spanish are, yugoslavian, albanian, greek and portugese! yet those peopes are not nordish. another people of non-indo-european descent are the basques! they're said to be the people to inhabitate europe before the arrival of indo-europeans! they speak the only non-indo-european language in western europe!

 

[LunarTower]

There seem to be 3 general groups of peoples in the Caucasian race, the Nordish, Alpine & Mediteranian groups.

 

[BodomiC]

hahaha
@ Kuvasz I knew that would make u mad I know that u speak that language. And I knew that it wasnt anything a all bad written about poland, but Ive wanted to make some kind of revange Dunno for what, but Ive wanted.

BTW Moonlight plays nice music, dont u think? What polish band do u listen to also? :s

Damn, Im interested in brasilian girs

 

[Ormir]

Originally posted by Fleischwolf
sorry, but indo-european resembles more than just the nordish people! italians are indo-european, spanish are, yugoslavian, albanian, greek and portugese! yet those peopes are not nordish.

The Indo-Europeans were nordish for the most part. This is shown by genetical tests which link the closest relatives of the original Indo-Europeans to South-East Russians and Swedish. The Indo-European family was composed of two components, the mostly blonde North-Western half, and the Indo-Aryan group of Eastern Mediterraneans.

This clearly shows that Greeks and Northern-Italians are part of the Indo-European family, whereas Portuguese and Spanish aren't. They are composed mainly of Northern-Mediterranean elements.

another people of non-indo-european descent are the basques! they're said to be the people to inhabitate europe before the arrival of indo-europeans!

Basques are Upper Paleolithic survivors. They are not Indo-European. Neither are many Irish, Welsh or Cornish.

they speak the only non-indo-european language in western europe!

No. Finnish, Hungarian and Estonian are also not Indo-European.

 

[Fleischwolf]

Originally posted by Ormir



Basques are Upper Paleolithic survivors. They are not Indo-European. Neither are many Irish, Welsh or Cornish.

well, they are celtic! why shouldn't they be indo-european? maybe there where some some paleolithic traces on the british islands, but to say that most of them aren't indo-european is a bit over the top!

Originally posted by Ormir


No. Finnish, Hungarian and Estonian are also not Indo-European.

i said in WESTERN EUROPE! to my knowledge finland and estonia are in north-east europe and hungary in eastern europe!

 

[PiRu]

I´m happy you people think we finns are cool and great and
what ever, but the teachers in my school tell that foreing people
thinks we are allways drunk and weird and somekind of trouble
sometimes thats true but not allways.

I think you guys are COOL.

 

[bizarre]

And I've heard that some people actually think that finns even wash their teeth with vodka!!!At least I won't confess such a thing...
And I dont think that finns are shy or quiet.I'm not.And my friends aren't.Particularly not when we are drunk...

 

[BodomiC]

And havent u heard that common polish or russian drinks more vodka per one ppl per year that any other foregin people?

Im suppose to be proud of the most vodka drinkin' nation in tha europe, but obviously im not :Spin:

So btw i believe that in some 100yoears time, there wont be any diverce between polish, rusian, fins, americans, hunguarian, swedish and any other, cuz all nations with unite

but since JWB is usa's president, out earth might be destoyed soon. Damn those nuclear ruling bastards

 

[Kuvasz]

Originally posted by BodomiC
hahaha
@ Kuvasz I knew that would make u mad I know that u speak that language. And I knew that it wasnt anything a all bad written about poland, but Ive wanted to make some kind of revange Dunno for what, but Ive wanted.

BTW Moonlight plays nice music, dont u think? What polish band do u listen to also? :s

Damn, Im interested in brasilian girs

:Smug: Duh...

No comments... hehe, just kidding, polaco.
Hope you don't think that Buenos Aires is in Brasil.

Bodomic: Dunno for what, but Ive wanted.
Hahaha, alright, probably you were bored

Well, I don't know many polish bands, but I loooove Moonlight (mainly, Maja has got a wonderful voice, I'm jealous of her AAAAAAAHHHHH... uff, feeling better now, thanks ), Kat ( ), Vader, Decapitated. I know also Ira, hahaha, and we've got a band named Ira here too. But the "Nadzieja" song is cute, hehe.
Could you show me more good polish bands?

 

[Kuvasz]

Originally posted by PiRu
I´m happy you people think we finns are cool and great and
what ever, but the teachers in my school tell that foreing people
thinks we are allways drunk and weird and somekind of trouble
sometimes thats true but not allways.

I think you guys are COOL.

No, Piru (PIRU ), the drunk people ain't you, but the polish people (only to netle BodomiC )

So, Piru ( PIRU

), don't worry

 

[Ormir]

Originally posted by Fleischwolf
well, they are celtic! why shouldn't they be indo-european? maybe there where some some paleolithic traces on the british islands, but to say that most of them aren't indo-european is a bit over the top!

Most British are descended from Indo-Europeans, but there are pockets in Wales, Ireland and Cornwall who are descended directly from the Upper-Paleolithic peoples. Basques predate the Indo-Europeans by thousands of years, and are probably the oldest people of Europe.

i said in WESTERN EUROPE! to my knowledge finland and estonia are in north-east europe and hungary in eastern europe!

Western Europe is a cultural term, not a racial one. Finland has always been in the sphere of Western culture, seeing that it's been a part of Sweden for some 800 years. If you are so adamant on using the term, take into account Spain is generally referred to as Southern Europe geographically, not Western Europe. Further, there are indigenous Lappish tribes living in Sweden and Norway who also speak a non-Indo-European language.

In any case, your point is quiet moot, since Finns and Estonians are genetically part of the Baltic Indo-European family, unlike the Basques, who are not I-E.

 

[bodomite]

I think alot of finns have tempers (at least all the ones i have met) but other than that you guys rock!

 

[BodomiC]

@ Kuvasz : try yourself sth called Artosis, Delight or Fading Colors if ya like those damn sexy women voices THey're all similar to Moonlight.

If ya like Vader or Decapitated, try now Behemoth or Acid Drinkers or Sweet Noise, but I personaly dont listen to any of them. I just dont like polish music, I prefer foregin.

And no I dont fink that Buenos is in Brazil I finnished my geography learning 2 years ago, but I can still remeber where is it. At least I can check my "atlas"