FUCKING JÄGERMESITER HELL YEAH.

[lizard]

like the euroland version of southern comfort.

 

[NAD]

yeah those easy down the hatch 35% drinks can be dangerous. that's why i drink whisky, because there's no delusions about its status.

"hi i'm whisky. i'll burn your throat, fuck you up, and give you limpdick so you won't even be able to score tonight. WUSS."

 

[lizard]

you forgot the farting byproduct.

 

[NAD]

never noticed, probably because everything makes me fart.

i'm drinking water this morning.

 

[Dark One]

jason, that really sucks. i'm just curious, does she drink jag straight, or do one of those party drinks like mixed with redbull? that would make a lot more sense with the whole addiction thing, unless she really is in alcoholic. best of luck with that man.

Thanks Nad. She drinks it straight up, shot after shot after shot.

only because they are no longer interested in sex at that point.

Ironically, that's ONLY good thing about it, she becomes WAY more intersted in it and it's usually way hot, but it's not even close to being enough of a factor to be able to deal with all of the other baggage that comes with it.

...when i told her it was cold and she needed to come inside she collapsed in the driveway and started sobbing. that meant a few hours of talking to her and telling her everything was okay. also no sex and dealing with a 14-hour hungover girlfriend the next day.

Those episodes are the absolute worst. You're more or less sober having to deal with the drunken stupidity for hours, trying your best to think of ways to make her feel better and let her know it's going to be ok. Then FINALLY, she passes out cold followed by waking up the next day sick as a dog and completely forgetting the entire agonizing sequence even took place.

 

[Dark One]

this is all so true. to get someone help is almost like narcing on them; and you can't just talk to everyone about it because if you care about them you care about how others perceive them...and when its an abusive female, you can't easily talk about it either because the guy is supposed to be all macho and shit, and what kinda man lets a woman get lippy and abusive with him

Wow, every single word of this applies to me.

 

[lurch70]

it's also difficult to give your all and care when the other person is not helping themselves or does not want to help themselves ... even tough you are there to support them.
this whole situation seems to be in her court, as you seem to be very understanding and caring ... and she obviously somewhat milking that kindness.

 

[NAD]

what's that movie with andy garcia and whats-her-nuts ahhhhh... meg ryan, yeah. she's an alcoholic, he tries to help her out, and she just shits on him?

i watched that in some class in high school and the discussion afterwards was how much of a jerk andy garcia's character was for trying to help. WTF!!!

 

[lurch70]

the problem with all these things is ... that you can be supportive and caring and wanting to help ... but if the problem party is not willing to get help or admit they have a problem ... well ...

 

[lizard]

Wow, every single word of this applies to me.

been there done that, my brotha. we should join one of those mens' empowerment groups that gets together in the woods and wears loincloths and bangs on drums and then thankfully avoids teh sex.

but seriously, I think alot of guys are stuck in a relationship where they basically are trapped by gender expectations...the other day I heard my neighbors fighting...the guy was like, "goddam you bitch, you slapped me first...I'm callin the po-lice and have you picked up..."

poor fucker doesn't realize he's the one they're going to take away...just because of all the assholes who beat on their women.

 

[Dark One]

it's also difficult to give your all and care when the other person is not helping themselves or does not want to help themselves ... even though you are there to support them.

Bang. That's it right there word for word. I could not have summed up the situation better myself. It would be different if I had repeatedly just turned my back on everything but I seriously don't know what more I can do, and it's too painful to continue to deal with and watch how it affects her son on a practically daily basis.

this whole situation seems to be in her court, as you seem to be very understanding and caring ... and she obviously somewhat milking that kindness.

I don't know about the milking the kindness part, but she definitely has listened to everything I've had to say about the situation and has done nothing to change things except to try and hide what she's doing - which is impossible.

 

[lurch70]

my fucking hero !!!

 

[NAD]

hahahahahaha

my favorite al bundy moment is when he builds the garage to his liking, then the women take it over. "i shall tear this place asunder!" x2903485729038572938

 

[Dark One]

the problem with all these things is ... that you can be supportive and caring and wanting to help ... but if the problem party is not willing to get help or admit they have a problem ... well ...

That, more than anything else, is what's so frustrating. It's not like she's saying "please help me" because I would be there for her so fast it's not even funny if she was. It's more like she's saying, "I don't have a problem, it's my choice, my life and I can stop any time I want to - stop trying to control me." Then I become the one who's somehow causing problems.

 

[Dark One]

hahahahahaha

my favorite al bundy moment is when he builds the garage to his liking, then the women take it over. "i shall tear this place asunder!" x2903485729038572938

LOL - oh the irony - I just bought the 4th season of that show on DVD over the weekend because I really needed the laughs. I LOVE that show so much.

 

[lizard]

man when I was younger Christina Applegate really tented my pantz.

 

[Dark One]

man when I was younger Christina Applegate really tented my pantz.

What's this "when I was younger" stuff?

 

[NAD]

That, more than anything else, is what's so frustrating. It's not like she's saying "please help me" because I would be there for her so fast it's not even funny if she was. It's more like she's saying, "I don't have a problem, it's my choice, my life and I can stop any time I want to - stop trying to control me." Then I become the one who's somehow causing problems.

there comes a time when you have to let go. this type of situation is not one that can last forever because obviously it's not something that you can look beyond (and you shouldn't have to, it sounds extremely fucked up to me).

or just start chugging with her and stop caring, either way.

 

[lizard]

I haven't seen her in quite a while....

 

[lurch70]

i think you know what you need to do at this point Jason ... you gotta look out for your own well being as well.