Carcassian
Utopian Blaster
Teh Grimarse said:what do you buy beer with?
like... beads?
animal pelts?
sexual favors?
No, intelligent, well informed conversation: ergo he isn't American.
Teh Grimarse said:what do you buy beer with?
like... beads?
animal pelts?
sexual favors?
CAIRATH said:Coming from someone complaining about "wank customer support". Heheh. Maybe you should leave the mp3 players to people who can handle them, gramps. I have owned two iPods and neither of them has ever had any kind of "breakdowns", and the battery life thing is total bullshit. Yes some Creative players did 20 hours instead of the old iPod's 12 (current ones have 20 hours), but the stories about how iPod batteries die quickly and then you have to pay Apple 50 bucks to have it replaced are just ridiculous. I used my 20 gig iPod for about 2 years straight for several hours a day and the battery life on it is still fine. It's not the 12 hours it used to be but more than enough to listen to it all day without running out of juice.
Like I said, in the end it depends on what you care about. If you care about keeping as much money as possible in your pocket then the iPod is not the best choice no. But claiming that the extra dollars simply go to "fashion" is just retarded. The iPods are far smaller, lighter, sturdier (with the downside that the battery is not user-removable) and have a better interface than any of the Creative players I've used/held.
iPods are quality well engineerd and designed products. Even if they are a little overpriced and there may be players with better price/feature ratios. That doesn't make iPods useless fashion accessories and neither does it make people who buy them 'saps' who are too stupid to do a little research before buying an mp3 player. I did my research, and guess what, I happen to like the iPods better than any other player I've tried and am prepared to shell out a little extra cash for that.
CAIRATH said:I don't care if you like them or not. I just resent the whole "ha ha people who buy iPods are uninformed retards because they are just fashion accessories" thing. I'm a computer science student who actually reads tech sites on a daily basis and I'm pretty much the most unfashionable person you can imagine. So the reasons why I bought one (twice) was not because I am 1) stupid 2) uninformed or 3) trying to impress other people.
It's all about weighing up the advantages and disadvantages and decide which you find most important. I happen to find a compact, sturdy and well-designed player with a good interface more important than 8 hours of extra battery life (which I don't use anyway, even my not-quite-12-hours-anymore iPod has never run out on me before I had a chance to recharge it) and the 50-80 or so bucks you save on buying Creative instead of Apple.
As for the battery wear, Creative players suffer from that just as much as Apple players do. That's just how lithium batteries work. The only difference is that the with the previous generation players the iPod had like 8 hours less to begin with and that with the iPod the battery is harder to replace by yourself. But after 2 years of intensive every day use mine still works fine and can still hold a decent charge. So shrug.
swizzlenuts said:You officially just pissed me off! I spend 350 for my ipod 60gb, and now they have a creative 60 for 299 with out all the apple bullshit! :killsself:
In my school everyone and their mother (you think I'm exaggerating?) has an iPod, so having something different is actually more respectable to most people as iPods have become nothing specialCarcassian said:iPOD = fashion over functionality.
Pay more, get less, shit battery, prone to breakdowns and wank customer support. That's the iPOD way! Still, at least you get to say "look, I've got an iPOD" and impress those spastics unable to research which player is best for them, and believe the media hype.
Susperia said:O rly dahhhling.
<insert very homosexual looking owl>
When I bought my Ipod, the IRivers looked like they there were having some problems with the larger hard drives, and they didn't have compatability with winamp, and Ipod had 60 gig at that time where the Iriver 40 gig was ~320, and my ipod costed ~350 on sale sall from ~399.ender7227 said:In my school everyone and their mother (you think I'm exaggerating?) has an iPod, so having something different is actually more respectable to most people as iPods have become nothing special
iPods = crap
Buddy of mine has an iRiver which kicks ass on all the other iPods on the block and he bought it a few years ago