USA Wins. Congrats!
About what I read a few posts earlier, I do believe socialism is a good thing, the problem is that it does cost a little more than pure liberalist capitalism which is more of a jungle. I think it is harder to keep things together but worth it in the long term, as it is fair IMO.
In the UK it is frighteningly simple - we artifically inflated the size of the state so that it accounts for up to 80% of the economy depending on where you go. A country can only have a certain proportion of its workforce paid by tax income before it becomes detrimental to growth, and we're considerably past that threshold. We keep borrowing money to pay for the state, because it is so large we can't actually support it ourselves and the whole time we have the idiots in Labour saying things like 'you can't cut state jobs, we need people in work to stimulate the economy and pay taxes!'. Do they not realise that those jobs are being paid entirely by tax (or worse, public debt)?
They must realise this. They're just aware of how the majority of workers in the country depend on the state and will vote against 'austerity' and in favour of inevitable economic oblivion.
Yeah but at the same time Norway is very expensive to live in so I don't know how much a comparison you can make with that. I don't know how much the different levels of life cost matter ?
This is the fucking end of the world.
We will be slaved and brutally raped by chinese.
16 hours working and 8 sucking cocks.
Yeah, shit like that happens here in Argentina too. You may be kidnapped at random (not planned), which is called "secuestro express" ("express kidnapping" ). i.e. driving late at night in a bad neighborhood and suddenly some random guy throws himself in front of your car. Many people stop and if you do... random guy points his gun at you and makes you go to an ATM to get all the cash they can, and they me even force you to go to your place and steal whatever they want there too and/or request a ransom for your freedom. Scary stuff.
??? what i was trying to draw attention to was the greece has the 3rd longest working hours on the list.
That's because you guys haven't figured out permanent consumption like we have. Start bombing brown people and waging imaginary wars against abstract concepts like 'terrorism' and 'drugs' and you'll be fine. Sort of.
There's about 2.000.000 out of our approximate total 10.000.000
who evade tax payment and most of them are direct clients to
a certain party or politician. I blame them ;
They have the biggest share of the responsibility for the present situation.
The rest of us work more than 60 hours (I worked 96) a week to maintain a decent standard of life. We pay taxes.
And we are governed by rich manipulators who have never worked, been to a public hospital or faced a financial difficulty.
My friends from the USA, UK and Germany (and other countries) have personally told me there's tax evasion in all of their countries.
It's not overtly discussed but at some point it will be.
There's no such thing as an innocent lender or loan.
It's a long term investment and since nobody wants to loose their $$, they secure it well.
You can draw your own conclusions about what the EU is.
When greece got loans, its politicians and those of the lending countries knew what they were doing.
The rest of the people were oblivious.
And they kept paying their taxes.
And kept living their lives just like everybody else.
Would you lend money to a person with virtually no income ? No.
Would you lend money to a person with virtually no income but with great assets ? Yes.
Greek assets : beauty, uranium, gold, petrol, sun, wind, sea etc etc
Game point : The greedy intermediators (greek politicians) get richer and the lenders get a country.
All those decision makers involved knew and benefited.
'Cause whatever the outcome it would be the layman/people who would have to pay.
The people of all countries. And it would be difficult to see they're scapegoats. Peoples would blame each other.
It's a great plan, I give them that.
If Greece is the devil it will soon end, it's 1/50 of the EU economy, perfect.
But Spain ? Italy ? Portugal ? Ireland ? Whose next ?
Me ? I've lost my home, my car, my life as I knew it.
I blame nobody but myself and those in power.
But there's this thread about a fellow forumer who's got cancer.
Suddenly my problems seem insignificant. I deference to him I shall stop here.