Well, basically Death metal growls are the only vocal style that ain't fucking gay, that's what I say when them stupid bastards ask me!
How do you defend Death Metal style vocals??
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I hear ya! I used to wanna get people to understand it in my earlier days, now I don't give a shit any more.
The best thing to do in such a conversation?? Go get (for example) Kataklysm-Temple Of Knowledge. Play the 'Beckoning Of The Xul' intro at max volume while pressing your conversation partner's head to the loudspeaker... that should shut 'm up for a while! (That song has some nice vocal outbursts at the beginning, only ca. 15 secs, but it will do)
1. Metal is not "beautiful" in the normal sense of the word. Metal is "beauty in truth" music, and the fact is that much of what is true is ugly. So some of the things that people consider to be ugly (such as brutal vocals) is where Metal draws its beauty from.
2. Brutal vocals compliment the music itself. The style of Metal (especially the style of guitar play) is inherently rough and abrasive. Rough and abrasive vocals compliment rough and abrasive music. It all depends on the individual artist or song. If a Metal band wants vocals that compliment their music then they'll use brutal vocals. If the band is looking for a contrast then they'll use clear vocals. The type of vocals used contributes to the desired effect and atmosphere that a band wants in their song.
3. Metal is best heard for what it is, not how it compares to anything else. Unless it is intended to, Metal shouldn't be compared to something that is unrelated. Why the hell should, say, Shagrath be compared to Whitney Houston? Listen to the music for what it is, not how it relates to popular sounds.
Well, thats my long answer. My short answer to anyone who mocks brutal vocals is something along the lines of: "You're ignorant, go to hell."
2. Brutal vocals compliment the music itself. The style of Metal (especially the style of guitar play) is inherently rough and abrasive. Rough and abrasive vocals compliment rough and abrasive music. It all depends on the individual artist or song. If a Metal band wants vocals that compliment their music then they'll use brutal vocals. If the band is looking for a contrast then they'll use clear vocals. The type of vocals used contributes to the desired effect and atmosphere that a band wants in their song.
3. Metal is best heard for what it is, not how it compares to anything else. Unless it is intended to, Metal shouldn't be compared to something that is unrelated. Why the hell should, say, Shagrath be compared to Whitney Houston? Listen to the music for what it is, not how it relates to popular sounds.
Well, thats my long answer. My short answer to anyone who mocks brutal vocals is something along the lines of: "You're ignorant, go to hell."
My short answer is also something like. Something like " You're a fucking idiot and this arguement will never end, so just go to hell you moron".... or something along those lines
Kveldssanger
Black Adder leads us all
Very true: Johan Liiva is a classic albeit off-key example of this. I can't believe people actually like Liiva.
AngelWitch73
Member
Yeah... I agree.. they'll never see the big deal if they the dont in the first place. Im going to avoid future arguements to avoid having my head explode.
shikuz
follower of the blind
it's kinda like asking why the band chose to use this particular note along with that other one. it's part of the music, and most times it fits the other parts well. i must admit i had a hard time in the beginning, but i've grown accustomed to extreme vocals and now i LOVE them. what helped me to get used to the growling was focusing on the instrumental parts instead of on the vocals. after a while you feel it's an integral part of the music. that's what i tell those who complain.
I also didn't like extreme vocals when I first listened to Metal. But now, I can hardly imagine some of the greatest songs without them. I think that brutal vocals chase some people away from Metal. Like this one time I let my friend listen to In Flames Jester Race (which doesn't even have really extreme vocals) and he said that he would buy it if it was instrumental only. At least he recognized the quality of the music, but he just couldn't get over the style of vocals.
People who put down the vocals of death metal are stupid. I mean, I don't like that and I don't listen to it but I am not gonna go tell every people who like that, that it sucks.
BTW, I only like growl in band like Within Temptation(first album) and after forever, the mix with a clean voice is really good.
that was my two cents
BTW, I only like growl in band like Within Temptation(first album) and after forever, the mix with a clean voice is really good.
that was my two cents
Originally posted by Lancelot
I prefer gutural vocals!
Me too - violent vox rules.
But then again I prefer Chuck Schuldiner -like vox (not as "guttural") to the Corpsegrinder -like vox... I like the 'edge'
..but hey - both satisfy me greatly! :Smokedev:
MindMorgue
Dead.
Just attack the music they like, call it girlie and question their sexuality for listening to it, childish, but fun.
MindMorgue.
MindMorgue.
Originally posted by MindMorgue
Just attack the music they like, call it girlie and question their sexuality for listening to it, childish, but fun.
MindMorgue.
That would only work unless it's a guy, and they listen to boy band stuff. And I try not to make coversation about music with guys whose musical taste revolves around boy bands!
uke: 
Its not worth arguing with people who just don't understand metal music. I usually, shrug my shoulders, smile and say "metal music is an acquired taste you wouldn't understand so I won't waste my time"
Best way to do it...is ignore & walk away.
Best way to do it...is ignore & walk away.
HeadCrusher
Member
maybe you can defend death metal vocals by telling people that it is not easy to sing like alexi from children of bodom or peter from hypocrisy AND playing guitar simultaneously. it really needs much of concentration and training to do so!
grtz, Chriss
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