How expensive is living (and buying cds) in your country?

there are major differences for some places. i paid a visit to norway 15 months ago and to be honest nobody with an average greek salary can even survive there. i paid like 12 euros for a burger and fries at mcdonalds!!!

anyways, greece and potugal are the poorest countries in the eu so you can understand that bying cd's that cost 20 euros is not an easy thing. not for a worker that gets paid 600 euros a month and tries to feed a family.
 
that's why we're poor gorik. if we had average eu salaries it would be heaven like. we also have the highest unemployment rate. so things are pretty bad.
 
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Housing in Paris costs the skin of the bollox. For instance, renting a 20-25 square meters appartment in inner Paris costs appro. 600€/month. Hell :erk:
 
I'm alright I just live in an attic owned by other people, so I don't have to pay much, cd's are between £10 -15 and that's ok seeing as I don't pay rent and that I can afford it. I've thought about getting my own place and stuff but it just seems a lot of effort and stuff to think about considering we'll be dead soon
 
a translation... In this table you can see how much have to work 1 empolyee at EU to buy the SAME THING...

The first orizontial collumn has: 100 foodstuffs, 50 stuffs for home and drink, 10 stuffs apparatus and furniture pieces, 25 Clothing and Total for 183 Ware
The first vertical collumn had :ENGLAND,FRANCE,GERMANY,ITALIA,GREECE

and second vertical is : Hours and seconds
third vertical : Hours and seconds
fourth : days
fifth : days
an at final : days
 
In America, the financial situation varies from region to region. Where I live, for example, people make around $30,000 a year (rough estimate!) on average. Decent apartments can be found for around $400 a month. A salary of $8 an hour is considered "decent". CDs are around $15.00, therefore they're pretty affordable. In New York City, which is about 3-4 hours from where I live; the average cost for an apartment is around $1000 a month or more. Usually the apartments are tiny. In my town, $400 a month can get you a good-sized apartment with a few bedrooms, a full bathroom, kitchen, etc. and sometimes even a yard.
 
Allow me to take a moment to figure out my own personal salary/expenses, by month:

Rent ($730 a month, minus roommates half) = $365
Cable/Internet ($95 a month, minus roommate's half) = $47.50
Electric (varies greatly, but averages to about $100 a month, minus half) = $50
Phone ($32, minus half) $16
Car payment = $242
Car insurance = $100
Cell phone = $45
Petro = $130 (gas is presently $1.48 a gallon on average here, so I do go through a lot)
Food = $150 (food tastes good)
Credit card payments = $40
Money I give to my parents for being an asshole all those years = $100

I guess that covers the essentials. Comes out to $1285.50 a month. I make somewhere between $1850 and $2480 a month (unless I find a better job, I'll be taking an $800 a month hit in about March, though I'm moving back in with my parents when my lease is up in November, and I'll have my car payed off by the time my present roommate, future roommate and myself get another place next June, plus having an additional roommate at that time will cut everything into thirds), so I guess I can afford CD's and stuff. However, after a few nights out drinking, any thoughts of spending cash are long forgotten.
 
MoonsOfJupiter said:
In America, the financial situation varies from region to region. Where I live, for example, people make around $30,000 a year (rough estimate!) on average. Decent apartments can be found for around $400 a month. A salary of $8 an hour is considered "decent". CDs are around $15.00, therefore they're pretty affordable. In New York City, which is about 3-4 hours from where I live; the average cost for an apartment is around $1000 a month or more. Usually the apartments are tiny. In my town, $400 a month can get you a good-sized apartment with a few bedrooms, a full bathroom, kitchen, etc. and sometimes even a yard.
Right, but things usually have a way of balancing themselves out. For example, where you live, someone working at, say.... McDonalds, probably only makes $5.15-6.00 an hour, whereas someone working at McDonalds in NYC would make more like $9-10 a hour. Where I live (Reading, PA) things are a little more complicated. We have sections where you can see these fucking mansions and 3 blocks away there are row-homes that can be purchased for less than a mid-size car. Likewise, jobclasses are totally fucked up, with large sections of the people in the $80,000-$100,000 a year range while other large sections of the population are collecting welfare.

Where I'm living now is considered about average for this particular section of Reading, at $730 a month. Now, if I wanted to, I could move less than a mile away and get a place twice as big for half the price, but I'd have to be surrounded by houses with pairs of shoes hanging from telephone wires (FYI, this means that there is a crackhouse nearby) and annoying salsa music blaring 24 hours a day
 
in poland that kind of research has already been done by some magazine so it's a bit easier to calculate it.

(the data is from around december02/january03, like prices and exchange rates)
average salary: 506 euros (2000 pln)
average cd price: 14 euros (55 pln)

so the buying power is like 37 cds for a monthly wage. there are also other countries shown for comparison:

czech: 31 cds
hungary: 22 cds
slovakia: 17 cds
slovenia: 60 cds
russia: 9 cds

and now we get to the point

germany: 202 cds
spain: 93 cds
usa: 126 cds

there are substantial differencies within the euro area like germany and spain. greece is not shown in that reasearch but i guess they also earn a lot less than the richest euro countries.

other thing is that those average salaries are nowhere near the reality for the young people (those are the most natural customers for cds). if you got the job for the first time in poland, you get like 250 euros a month tops (and i'm still using the old euro exchange rate from january, now it's even worse).

cheers.
 
Cerulean said:
600 €? Shit :s that's what I got in 10 days work last year.
don't wanna tell you for what time you'll earn our monthly wages...it's so pathetic...but one thing is for sure our own products are very cheap (which makes the german tourists very happy) only the imported stuff from EC is far more expensive... difference of standarts...