How to handle cock head bass players that want their bass too loud in the mix?

Don't take what I said so seriously...it was a joke. Obviously, if you did that to one of your customers...they wouldn't be for much longer.

Sorry dude. Misunderstanding. I just happened to quote you because you were the last response.

Unfortunatly some of the guys around here that share that belief aren't joking. Or maybe they are, and I just miss the sarcasm. But considering how much stuff like that is said in certain threads, I have to believe they really are that serious.
 
I can barely hear any bass on the riffing stuff, and the solo is way too low it seems to me.

EDIT: Oh, I get it he's is playing in sync with the guitar lead. What the fuck, yeah it's cool but then you got no bottom end filling up the backing riffage. Laame

My problem with putting more bottom end on the bass sweeps is that the higher notes dont come through, but the lower notes are super loud and full sounding.
what does one do to remedy this? In the mix i posted, i took alot of the low end out so that all the notes are equal volume, and just turned up the bass track as a whole. This makes the bass louder, but it still lacks the bottom end.
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My problem with putting more bottom end on the bass sweeps is that the higher notes dont come through, but the lower notes are super loud and full sounding.
what does one do to remedy this? In the mix i posted, i took alot of the low end out so that all the notes are equal volume, and just turned up the bass track as a whole. This makes the bass louder, but it still lacks the bottom end.
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Can't you just automate the EQ, or do separate tracks for the bass with different EQs for different parts?
 
Can't you just automate the EQ, or do separate tracks for the bass with different EQs for different parts?

this mix above is already with seperated tracks. I took the little bass solo part and put it on it's own track, and then the bass sweeps in the music onto their own track. I tried bumping up the compression over after the eq on the sweeps and it makes it a bit better.
I'll post an updated version later to see if you guys approve.
 
The bass should be much louder, the only part you can heard it with a normal equipment is the "solobreak". It's like the whole bottom is missing, the bassdrum is really upfront, but where's the bass-freqs?

If I'd be a bass-player (or a drummer or even a band-member of this group), I'd say the mixer is the "cock head" here.

EDIT - The sound is very good otherwise, but it's not about the bassist...the whole mix is in need of a lowend.
 
What happened with that bass-sound all metalbands had between 85-95 ?
It was total awesomeness.. ;X

Now days it seems like you should slam everything that has bass/low end as far back in the mix as possible, and then you lift out everything that has loads of mids.. What happened to warmth? ;(
 
My problem with putting more bottom end on the bass sweeps is that the higher notes dont come through, but the lower notes are super loud and full sounding.
what does one do to remedy this? In the mix i posted, i took alot of the low end out so that all the notes are equal volume, and just turned up the bass track as a whole. This makes the bass louder, but it still lacks the bottom end.
:mad:

Maybe try some multi-band compression on the bass track to even out the low end?
 
The bass should be much louder, the only part you can heard it with a normal equipment is the "solobreak". It's like the whole bottom is missing, the bassdrum is really upfront, but where's the bass-freqs?

If I'd be a bass-player (or a drummer or even a band-member of this group), I'd say the mixer is the "cock head" here.

EDIT - The sound is very good otherwise, but it's not about the bassist...the whole mix is in need of a lowend.

HEY!

you're a cockhead.....
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+1 on the multiband comping, that's what I'd done too.

Couldn't really hear the bass on it as I listened to it with crappy laptop speakers, but in general I love bass that's loud in the mix (e.g. Chaosphere by Meshuggah) and from I could make out from the sweep part, I'd give him more volume. Just compress the low end if necessary so it doesn't pump.
 
I don't know if it's just me, but it is still majorly lacking low-end to me. That initial bass solo deal still just sounds like backround to me.
 
Hope you don't think i'm bashing it. The guitars are TITS! Sounds very tight. :rock:

What did you use for leads?
 
didnt read through this whole thread but

seriously tell them that even though they are entitled to their opinion and mix suggestions, ultimately you are the engineer / producer here.

also, a lot of times you can change the name of the file, resend it and say "adjusted the bass volume, tweaked the tone here and there" and most of the time people will believe you and even say they like the "new" one better.

add like 10 ms to the beginning of the song so that when they compare, there's something different.

hahaha.
 
just out of curiosity, what kind of speakers are you listening to it on?


Just on home stereo type speakers through soundcard/amp. Not at the studio on proper monitors. And I realize that. Yet I listen to a ton of music on here and use it as a reference all the time.


I'm just listening to the bass break and it's super quiet and when the guitars come back in it's like 3 or 4 times as loud. Like I was saying the band reminds me alot of Necrophagist and the bass breaks on their album Epitaph would be much louder.

I understand when the rest of the band comes in it should hit harder. But I don't think that much.
 
Just on home stereo type speakers through soundcard/amp. Not at the studio on proper monitors. And I realize that. Yet I listen to a ton of music on here and use it as a reference all the time.


I'm just listening to the bass break and it's super quiet and when the guitars come back in it's like 3 or 4 times as loud. Like I was saying the band reminds me alot of Necrophagist and the bass breaks on their album Epitaph would be much louder.

I understand when the rest of the band comes in it should hit harder. But I don't think that much.

Yeah i've noticed i have a problem mixing too much low end in the bass(like way too loud in cars with good sound systems), but the bass isn't very loud on normal speakers. I guess it's a problem with my terrible Mackie MR8's. Unfortunately my car has terrible speakers in it so i cant test my mixes in there to see if there is too much low end. On my studio monitors the bass sounds fine obviously. I just cant seem to figure out how to make the bass sound right on normal speakers. All i end up hearing is the click from the bass


so the title of this thread should be renamed to "help a cock head recording engineer figure out how to make his bass loud enough in normal speakers."
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