I guess my days of downloading music illegally are over...

[Machinated]

spotify is great for me for this reason:

if there is a band i have been wanting to check out, i have a way of listening to their album for free in its entirety and at a reasonable bit rate. if i like it i can buy it, if i dont im still familiar with it. still legal, band still gets their $$$. even if im just curious on checking a band out, its a lot easier to do that now. i dont see it as a replacement for buying CD's etc - more as something to supplement it.

 

[abyssofdreams]

Hmm, I'm all for CDs myself. But I'm open towards any medium. Personally I will never sell any CDs and my collection keeps growing. Also, I don't think it is old-fashioned. I still own a lot of tapes and Vinyl records and still listen to the latter quite frequently. I often spend some time looking through my CDs, picking some out, sitting down and diving into another world. It is more of a traditional, almost ritual behaviour that is rather randomly fulfilled, whenever I'm in the mood. That is just one example I feel people miss out that are just relying on their mp3 libraries and such. I makes me feel more connected to the music. To each his own but I don't wanna miss those little things in my life

 

[ahjteam]

I'm like James in this respect... but as an artist myself, I see something good could come out of this - imagine a spotify client that you could install say, in your mobile phone... you could listen to a bunch of music for free whilst the artist is still being paid... for those on the move - great.

They are already one step ahead of you:

http://www.spotify.com/en/about/jobs/

Current vacancies

* UK Sales Account Manager, Spotify UK
* Poste de Directeur Commercial, Spotify France
* Software engineer, Backend
* Software engineer, S60 platform
* Software engineer, Android platform
* Software engineer, iPhone platform
* Software engineer, Windows applications
* Software engineer, Summer intern

 

[Kazrog]

Going to get a nice turntable soon myself, missed out on the whole vinyl experience the first time around, so I will be checking it out soon. I hate ads, I'd rather pay for a CD, vinyl album, or iTunes and not have to listen to ads.

I actually like buying stuff on iTunes now that they got rid of the pesky DRM and upped the sound quality.

 

[James Murphy]

i am NOT against preview services like spotify... i am against the move to an all digital download music business model where CD-Audio, DVD-Audio, or even Blu-Ray Audio... are no longer/never made and sold. i've said it before in this forum and i'll say it again.. the day i can no longer buy a hard copy product to put on my shelves is the day i stop paying for music. i will pirate it after that point.

to recap my earlier post on this subject when i replied to Morgoe: Music is the end product, not a tool... i pay for software and plugs because they are tools i use to create. i can't use my music CDs to create anything... unless you count mash-ups or mix tapes.. lol... and i haven't found anyone willing to pay for me those yet!

 

[Lasse Lammert]

I'm with James.
I love reading the booklets and credits etc.

 

[abyssofdreams]

the day i can no longer buy a hard copy product to put on my shelves is the day i stop paying for music. i will pirate it after that point.

don't worry, I doubt this day will come.

 

[ahjteam]

i am NOT against preview services like spotify... i am against the move to an all digital download music business model where CD-Audio, DVD-Audio, or even Blu-Ray Audio... are no longer/never made and sold. i've said it before in this forum and i'll say it again.. the day i can no longer buy a hard copy product to put on my shelves is the day i stop paying for music. i will pirate it after that point.

You totally missed my point and it reads as the topic of this thread. Spotify is a great place to stop supporting illegal music downloading, because you pretty much get the same thing as if you would download a torrent, except its legal. I never said anything about stopping buying physical mediums; I still do it on 50-100 CDs yearly rate and I have about 1000 legit CDs and 300 legit DVDs.

 

[James Murphy]

well you made a huge leap of logic there... i wasn't referring or replying to anything you posted, nor thinking of you in any way when i made my post. i simply interjected my own thoughts about the concept of "CDs going away"..... not related to you or anything you said with my original post. so i didn't miss anything at all. i said exactly what i wanted to say.

 

[Sacha]

I still love buying cds too but the fact is a lot (even most) music fans these days don't. As musicians we have to embrace this kind of technology. I truly hope Spotify FINALLY gets it right for a model where the fans can get thier music and the artist can get paid a little too...Everybody wins and no one should have qualms with that. It doesn't have to replace phsyical CDs.

 

[abyssofdreams]

except its legal

well, seeing as to how they try to fund this project with ads (which is what most people will choose anyways) or just by taking alternatively like $9.99 a month for unlimited download access (if I understood it correctly) I fail to see how they will succeed with this concept.

just because something is legal doesn't mean it really helps the market in any way.

 

[Ermz]

My only beef is paying for albums compressed as MP3. I could live quite happily without the case, booklet, hard copy etc. I pay for the music, not the visual artwork, or what I can hold in my hands. After all music is there to be listened to, and I don't see an insubstantial copy of a song to be any less enjoyable than one (equivalently encoded) on CD. They're both just bitstreams. The big issue for me is that if I'm going to pay for an album, I want the full quality, uncompressed version. Even FLAC if they're so willing.

As far as vapor copies being prone to hardware malfunctions... Simply entitle a customer to unlimited downloads of that album after they've purchased it, so that they can replace it if their backup HDDs fail.

 

[Mutant]

the day i can no longer buy a hard copy product to put on my shelves is the day i stop paying for music. i will pirate it after that point.

OK OK OK

I'll save you from becoming a pirate then...

Here is the idea:

Lossless audio + blank cd + cd recorder + blank cd label + cd label printing capable printer + pdf of the booklet + some paper for your printer + empty cd box = your "hard copy" that you can put on your shelf.

HA ! My work here is done

 

[abyssofdreams]

OK OK OK

I'll save you from becoming a pirate then...

Here is the idea:

Lossless audio + blank cd + cd recorder + blank cd label + cd label printing capable printer + pdf of the booklet + some paper for your printer + empty cd box = your "hard copy" that you can put on your shelf.

HA ! My work here is done

Why stop there? Why not build your own car or print your own money?

 

[Mutant]

I dont like the current system where the artist gets only about 10% of the CD price.

All the rest goes to these evil record companies, and to multiple levels of transport and retail leeches.


Every artist should have a paypal account for me to pay them 20% of the CD price if i decide to download their music.

 

[Mutant]

Why stop there? Why not build your own car or print your own money?

Because building a car is a little bit more complicated and you cant do it in 5 minutes ?

 

[James Murphy]

like FUCK i want to go to all that trouble to make a half-assed "bootleg" looking copy on goddamned CDR. sorry Mutant... your little plan FAILS.

and Ermin... fuck having to re-download 2000+ CD's as mp3s.. much less FLAC or higher res... i'd rather open a vein.

 

[Mutant]

Btw it is legal to print your own money it is just illegal to print USD.

 

[abyssofdreams]

well, depends on your standards doesn't it

and I'm sure it takes more than 5 minutes for this to do:

Lossless audio + blank cd + cd recorder + blank cd label + cd label printing capable printer + pdf of the booklet + some paper for your printer + empty cd box = your "hard copy" that you can put on your shelf.

 

[abyssofdreams]

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