Originally posted by Divine Intent
yeah here comes the fucking wannabe opeth fan boys hahahah.
Katatonia is atleast as good or better then opeth.
Just listen to Dance of December Souls,Brave Murder Day or their sideproject October Tide witch is at some points even better then katatonia.
That is one great argument. I don't think I can possibly refute it.
When you make such accusations, you might want to back them up. Besides, what do you expect on an Opeth board? People will most likely prefer Opeth.
Originally posted by
Katatonia are great, but I still think Opeth is better.
The only band I'd say is as good as Opeth is Maudlin of the Well.
There are bands that I like better than Opeth, but I am just getting into Maudlin of the Well, so I am still trying to hear the greatness of which you speak.
Originally posted by Cutter
Sometimes, technicalilty and originality can be thrown out the window in favour of good, honest, black-heart pouring emotion. This is where Katatonia shine...well, they would shine if they weren't so black.
Maybe I undervalue emotion in music, but I think it takes more than just emotion to make something great. There are very few simple bands that I like, because it takes alot to make up for the simplicity, in my mind. I have heard a good bit of Katatonia myself, (LFDGD and some other random songs), and I d find it to be very emotionally focussed, but is that really superior? There is alot more to the world than depression. If an artistic work is to be great, it should represent the things that are truly most important and fulfilling, etc.
In conjunction with this idea, I thought it was interesting when this was said:
Originally posted by kuraikat
but [Katatonia's] is extremely simple music not much different from the abhorred country
Because this kinda shows that Katatonia has a rather similar intent to country music. It greatly appeals to the emotional aspect of the soul, but it kinda ignores the intellect. The great difference, of course, is the type of emotion evoked.
Originally posted by abyssofdreams
on what are you judging? Opeth may be better technicalwise but according to the depth the music reveals Katatonia is way abocve Opeth. But I'm not saying that one band is better than the other one, they're just to different to compare at all...
I'm not sure what kind of depth you are referring to, but if you want to talk about bands with depth and meaning which are well represented musically, Agalloch's Mantle and Emperor's Prometheus kick the crap out of everything else I have heard (except possibly Isis' Oceanic).
Originally posted by yourdeadgroom
so, I take it you prefer lyric writers than dress everything up in frilly words and fancy metaphores (read: wankers ), as opposed to lyric writers that are bluntly honest.
I tire of hearing this. If it is hard to understand, then it must be pretentious. If the words are unusual, then it is pseudo-intellegent. I don't really know what you are referring to in particular, but I believe that too many people blow great things off under the pretext that they are pretentious. Agalloch is a great example. I have heard a number of people call them quasi-intellectuals who have nothing better to do than whine, or some such thing. That's a pretty harsh judgement to pass on anything, especially when reliable sources give it credit. Such a statement automatically assumes that the person critiquing the work is far the superior of the creator of the work.
It's pretty easy to call Bartok's music nonsensical and chaotic, but is there actually a pattern to it? Could it represent something that we just don't see? The same goes for T.S. Eliot's poetry.
What's happened to this place? Numskin = (Nah, I'm just kidden.) Katatonia's music is definitely an acquired taste. I like it. It's one of the few bands that I could listen to anytime. No question about it. 
