If Mort Divine ruled the world

[CiG]

I wonder what witty retort or quip he has for this shit.

 

[Einherjar86]

I don't mean the bees but the bee-ness of bees. And the differences between bee types. Those differences manifest at both individual and hive (emergent) levels.

"The Bee-ness of Bees" sounds like the title of an E.O. Wilson book. I guess that would be "The Ant-ness of Ants."

Well hard genetic determinism is a bridge too far. There are various contingent factors, but at the same time there are genetic parameters. Even the the worst of upbringings wasn't going to render the proverbial (or specific) Einstein as intellectually disabled (barring traumatic brain injury), and no amount schooling is going to turn an intellectually disabled person into a proverbial Einstein.

I don't think intellectual disability is what we're talking about, though--or at least not what most people are talking about when they discuss intelligence and genetics.

The irrational leap (which I'm not accusing you of making) is that certain races are intellectually inferior. It might be the case that certain races are more prone (genetically) to intellectual disability (however we define it); but that's not an objectionable statement, and it doesn't mean the same thing as intellectual inferiority. There's a big difference between saying one group of people is more prone to intellectual disability, and one group of people is intellectually inferior.

Liberal (or progressive) dogma is indeed not overwhelmingly dominant...outside of the US/Europe. It appears to be an unfortunate cultural mutation, a byproduct of unique environmental selection, which will lead to its own extinction.

I think liberal/progressive dogma is at least evenly balanced with conservative dogma in this country.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I wonder what witty retort or quip he has for this shit.

Tyson's witty retort regarding Trump's election was that he hoped to "grab Trump by the penis" should they meet. His cleverness is pretty overrated tbh.

 

[CiG]

His cleverness is pretty overrated tbh.

You don't fucking say.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

My favorite black science man tweet

 

[CiG]

I don't even know what to say about that shit.

 

[Dak]

My favorite black science man tweet

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Yay genocide and colonialism amirite?

 

[rms]

 

[CiG]

I find some of his rants entertaining but Neil fits the fart-huffing intellectual caricature the most of anybody alive.

 

[Dak]

He's obviously not an independent thinker. Lost in Vegas boyz would probably show him up.

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

Tyson's witty retort regarding Trump's election was that he hoped to "grab Trump by the penis" should they meet. His cleverness is pretty overrated tbh.

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[Blurry_Dreams]

Can't we just refer to people who currently have a penis as males, and those who currently have a vagina as females?

what about the "fully functional" and "pre-op" transsexuals?
the ones who have gone through throat surgery to have a Minnie Mouse voice/reduced Adam's apple and the "facial feminizing" surgery to have a face that looks like a Barbie doll and implants/fat-transfer to have huge boobs and a huge ass

i'm not calling that person he/him if they look like a girl till they lift up their skirt

seriously
if i'm looking at Sarina Valentina or Eva Cassini face-2-face, i'm not referring to that person as "him" or "he"

also
the ones planning on having [expensive-as-hell] gender-reassignment-surgery should be called and treated like their new gender long before they actually go through the expensive surgery

 

[EternalMetal]

what about the "fully functional" and "pre-op" transsexuals?
the ones who have gone through throat surgery to have a Minnie Mouse voice/reduced Adam's apple and the "facial feminizing" surgery to have a face that looks like a Barbie doll and implants/fat-transfer to have huge boobs and a huge ass

i'm not calling that person he/him if they look like a girl till they lift up their skirt

seriously
if i'm looking at Sarina Valentina or Eva Cassini face-2-face, i'm not referring to that person as "him" or "he"

also
the ones planning on having [expensive-as-hell] gender-reassignment-surgery should be called and treated like their new gender long before they actually go through the expensive surgery

Calling someone he/she is casual and intuitive, so ill call them whatever instinct or the social situation implies. I probably wouldnt be socially rude and call a tranny a he just because he has a dick and I can tell, but ill still mentally think of the person as a dude who dresses and/or acts like a girl.

As for the post-op decked out ones that you wouldnt be able to tell unless you lift their skirt, if it doesnt come up in conversation and they pass as female, id mentally think of them as a female. Once I know, then I would think of them as a male.

The way I look at the situation now has kind of changed a little bit. I acknowledge that gender is a social construct, and therefore there probably does exist a continuum where people lie on a spectrum of man (masculinity) and woman (femininity). However, whether someone is "male" or "female" is dependent upon biology. You cant become a female through surgery (ok, if they get to the point where they can somehow naturally bear children - which is impossible with modern science - then they would, but otherwise no). Your sex cannot change, and the term "sex-change" is a misnomer for the more aptly named "gender reassignment". For the sake of not driving myself mad, I view the terms "male" and "female" as biological and not gender based. The terms she/girl/woman/lady, and he/boy/man/dude, etc. can be used as a gender descriptor and as a biological distinction, and doing so depends on context. Though I refuse to accept additional jargon additions to the he/she dichotomy until society by and large starts using other descriptors naturally (at this point I see this to be unlikely in the foreseeable future despite what whackos who took a class WANT to believe). If you want to use your terms within your friend circles, fine, but don't impose your sensitivities upon people who by and large see gender as a black and white social norm still tied to biological sex.

So as the statement is written, I agree with Baroque. The example trans you use (Sarina Valentina) is a male, but I guess I shouldnt disagree with being able to call her a girl, even if im not really comfortable with the idea.

 

[CiG]

I use trans people's preferred pronouns for my own sake, to curb confusion. If you're talking to a man who aesthetically is indistinguishable from a female and goes by a feminine name, using "he" in a conversation with them is actually contextually more confusing than using their preferred pronoun.

 

[The Ozzman]

If they have a dick, they are a dude. There is no in between for this.

 

[The Ozzman]

I guess they let randos write news articles now: https://www.thenation.com/article/george-bush-death-media-white-supremacy/

 

[EternalMetal]

I guess they let randos write news articles now: https://www.thenation.com/article/george-bush-death-media-white-supremacy/

lmao. Irony much?

I probably couldn’t write as racially self-regarding as Douthat, even if I wanted to, and I certainly couldn’t get such a piece published. I’m a black man in America, nostalgic opinions that I have that zero white people agree with are called “crimes” up in this mess.

That entire article is a fucking joke. He talks about black people having diverse opinions, and then lumps all whites into the same category of the WASP article writer. Oh, and white people tweet too many white people things, lol.

It occurs me that many white people don’t think that there is anything particularly wrong with having an opinion that people of color find unlikeable or detestable. That impulse comes from a tradition of white supremacy that tells you non-white opinions don’t matter as much as white ones.

Yes, im allowed to have opinions. I think the majority of white people hate YOUR opinions when they start with categorizing us as 'white people'. Hypocrite.

The funny thing is, that WASP article he linked to is a piece of shit written by some rich guy from money Ivy league grad with a stick up his ass, so I dont even disagree with criticizing his pomposity. Just cut the shit with all the 'white' and 'white people' crap. The guy mentioned 'white' 40 times, and 'white people' 10 times. And then used Jeff Foxworthy as an "avatar of American whiteness". Like the WASP's want any part of the common man. This guy may misunderstand white people more than I do black people.

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

I use trans people's preferred pronouns for my own sake, to curb confusion. If you're talking to a man who aesthetically is indistinguishable from a female and goes by a feminine name, using "he" in a conversation with them is actually contextually more confusing then using their preferred pronoun.

this is exactly what i was trying to say
i just sometimes suck at coherently articulating my thoughts

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

yeah, it's basically the same system that turned Ein from this to the neo-communist that he currently is. Todays "academia" is flooded with people who are trying(and have somewhat succeeded) to brainwash the youth of this country

 

[Dak]

yeah, it's basically the same system that turned Ein from this to the neo-communist that he currently is. Todays "academia" is flooded with people who are trying(and have somewhat succeeded) to brainwash the youth of this country

I'm not sure how I've made it through an almost similar number of years in post-secondary/graduate education without being similarly affected. Maybe it's my general disregard of persons. Maybe it's because psychology does at least make an attempt to be data oriented (at least parts of psychology anyway).