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EternalMetal
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Never heard of 'pozzed' before so I googled it. lmfao
The only thing that I can really knock the add for is the shameless TYT plug. Are people against the social propaganda aspect of it? Political adds have existed for ages now. The liberals have this one in the bag though. You are automatically pro-misogynistic if you disapprove of this add, and I can't even blame them for thinking that way. Real men should respect women. I mean, does anyone really disagree?
The only thing that I can really knock the add for is the shameless TYT plug. Are people against the social propaganda aspect of it? Political adds have existed for ages now. The liberals have this one in the bag though. You are automatically pro-misogynistic if you disapprove of this add, and I can't even blame them for thinking that way. Real men should respect women. I mean, does anyone really disagree?
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Corporations shouldn't be moralizing like that, in my opinion. Or they can, but I can tell them to fuck off, especially when their business practices are pure dogshit.
The trap is that it shames men not into respecting women (most already do to varying degrees) but that it specifically shames men into supporting #MeToo which is an entirely different thing. It also implies that there is a #RapeCulture where a minority of men need to stand up to some evil imagined majority, when we all know that statistics show that rapists and harassers aren't representative of men. If they really had any balls or sense of scope they'd have made the advert specifically targeting wealthy men, men in power, men of privilege and riches, they'd have called out Hollywood for example.
But no, same old shit, they just smear regular men with the actions of rich animals with no sense of boundaries. Fuck the advert on every level.
Only bit I liked was that they used that viral clip of the black guy breaking up a fight between two young black kids. Great clip, except it was mischaracterized by putting it in a video about men and their treatment of women, when that clip was about men and class.
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I also love the reactions. Watching a bunch of fragile man-boys get their panties in a bunch is really exhilarating.
Seriously, if it offends you that much then don't buy their product. This is almost as bad as when people got up in arms over athletes kneeling during the national anthem.
Seriously, if it offends you that much then don't buy their product. This is almost as bad as when people got up in arms over athletes kneeling during the national anthem.
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You really think I'm more fragile than you? That's hilarious.
They won't be. Why would anybody with any self-respect (ie not cucks like you) support a corporation that conflates all men with rapists? Nobody would expect women to support a corporation that shits on women, not sure why you would expect men to not hold themselves to the same standard.
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I don't think of myself as all that fragile, just socially self-reflective. That is, I think to think about what things might possibly mean for everyone involved. I don't have much reason to take offense to things, but I'm a privileged white guy. I just do what I can to try and understand alternative perspectives.
Cucks? Calm down man, I don't feel identified as a rapist because of the ad. You know how you sometimes accuse me of reading too much into things...?
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I'm calm, you're the one fucking up your comments. You think to think? Great job you're a human lmao.
You refuse to read anything into it because it's men, and you're a cuck. If the advert simply replaced the topic and changed the gender you would also oppose it, or at least read more into it than you are with this one.
Einherjar86
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Jesus christ, sorry if I offended you. If the ad simply "replaced the topic and changed the gender" then it could be about anything. Look, I don't care if you don't like and if large swaths of people don't like it. I'm not saying it's an amazing ad, or even an ethical ad (feminists are upset about it too, for the record), or making great strides for #MeToo, or anything of the sort. But if the point is publicity, then it did what it set out to do. So trash your razors or don't, I don't care.
It's an ad that tried to monopolize on the #MeToo movement and ended up misfiring. I don't understand why it's become the object of so much ire. It's like when the Kardashian sister did that horrible Coke ad.
It's an ad that tried to monopolize on the #MeToo movement and ended up misfiring. I don't understand why it's become the object of so much ire. It's like when the Kardashian sister did that horrible Coke ad.
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What if the advert was about Muslims and how Muslims need to stop radicals in their community, would you not think that this implies that moderates are the minority who need to start doing something because #JihadCulture is pervasive? Or that it's the job of moderates to police their community? The implications of that advert, when applied to any other analogous situation, are pretty much fucked up.
So many corporations lately are taking this "shit on men" route, made further idiotic by the fact that most of them court a majority male consumer base, and they're receiving vicious backlash for it, tanking, hemorrhaging money and it's a great thing. No other demographic would EVER stand by while a company targeted at them simultaneously shits on them.
Sorry that man-babies like yourself don't like to see people standing up to corporations who don't have their best interests in mind. They should probably just cuck like people like you do, to prove they're #woke or some lame shit.
Any company that tells me I'm either probably a rapist or have some responsibility to stop other men from raping can go fuck itself. I don't take responsibility for RAPISTS lmao are you kidding me? Women should arm themselves and shoot them in the face, how about that? Make that advert.
I'm not offended, you don't have that ability. I'm just shitting on you.
So many corporations lately are taking this "shit on men" route, made further idiotic by the fact that most of them court a majority male consumer base, and they're receiving vicious backlash for it, tanking, hemorrhaging money and it's a great thing. No other demographic would EVER stand by while a company targeted at them simultaneously shits on them.
Sorry that man-babies like yourself don't like to see people standing up to corporations who don't have their best interests in mind. They should probably just cuck like people like you do, to prove they're #woke or some lame shit.
Any company that tells me I'm either probably a rapist or have some responsibility to stop other men from raping can go fuck itself. I don't take responsibility for RAPISTS lmao are you kidding me? Women should arm themselves and shoot them in the face, how about that? Make that advert.
I'm not offended, you don't have that ability. I'm just shitting on you.
Einherjar86
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A good point. I think a commercial that says Islam is, generally speaking, a peacefully practiced and respectable religion, and that the majority of peaceful Muslims can do more to prevent radicalization, wouldn't be offensive.
But I also think that one needs to consider the baseline mentality of people in this country. Generally speaking, it's known that a majority of American men aren't rapists. The point the ad is trying to make is to implore the majority of men to intervene when they see something untoward--not that the majority of men are rapists.
I'm less inclined to believe that, generally speaking, it's known that a majority of practicing Muslims aren't terrorists. I say this because I have relatives who live in the American heartland, and I see what they post on Facebook; and I know they personally feel that most Muslims want to see the end of Christianity and death to Christians.
So you're using two comparable examples, but both take off from very different starting points in terms of general consensus in America.
Neither do men, apparently...
Lay the fuck off dude. You think you're "standing up to corporations"? You're plastering your grievances on an internet forum. What difference is that making? Don't call me a cuck if all you have is a UM profile and a YouTube page.
As a member of society, you do have a responsibility to intervene when something untoward is taking place. That doesn't mean you're responsible for all rape, or some bullshit.
CiG
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That's not what they did with men in the advert though. If the advert showed statistics showing that rapists are a minority and conveyed the message that most men are [insert positive thing here] I bet it would have received a very different reaction.
There is propaganda out there implying most Muslims are terrorists, but you'd have to be ignorant not to know that there is similar feminist propaganda out there that implies a huge amount of men are rapists. Feminists are notorious for pushing narratives buttressed by misrepresented or misread statistics. The 1 in 4 rape rhetoric is a prime example.
Of course you ignore that though because you swim in a sea of feminist rhetoric which is probably taken for granted as true.
And I'm offended? You want all my social media accounts or something? I'm not anonymous or anything. I'll give you my home address, I don't care. What the hell was this comment? I'm not saying sperging on a forum is standing up to corporations, I'm saying boycotting the products and giving them negative feedback that will either force them to change or continue to tank is standing up to a corporation, because it is.
Sure. But to imply in an advert that women also have a responsibility to stop rape and harassment when it happens to other women (something women in Hollywood utterly failed to do because muh career) would immediately be seen as sexist and it would receive backlash, but of course you'd never call the women saying anything about it "woman-babies" because you're a cuck.
I'm taking a note from feminists who are ruthless and blunt in the pursuit of their interests and in defence of their gender when they're portrayed a certain way or generalized. People who say shit like you do deserve to have their heads bitten off.
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