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[Einherjar86]

Ha, okay then. I'll chalk this one up to that Australian summer heat.

 

[CiG]

This is the Mort thread, I'm just shitting on you. I'm not triggered or offended, if I were I wouldn't be on your side in the Good Television thread. I'm not irrationally lashing out, I'm just not going easy on you on this specific subject. I'm eating some cereal and listening to Patrice O'Neal.

My aircon is blasting sucka, I'm actually kinda cold right now.

 

[Einherjar86]

I see. Well, my windows are open and it's thirty-seven degrees out. So don't call me cuck, bitch.

Although thirty-seven is actually unseasonably warm for this time of year.

 

[CiG]

Today is supposed to be pretty cool, which is good because I'm fixing some roofs today...

 

[Dak]

There are several issues to be found with the Gillette ad but two really stand out. One: Substitute "masculinity" with many other labels and get decried as hate speech. Two: When companies are the enforcers of morals we have a huge problem.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

At this rate we're only a couple steps away from the heyday of Henry Ford spying on his employees to make sure they avoided premarital sex and alcohol if they wanted to earn that pay bonus.

 

[CiG]

Boardroom worms who undoubtedly have secret knowledge of peers who did something that would be sexual misconduct talking down to wider society. These are the same cunts who would have covered up for Weinstein right until the end.

 

[EternalMetal]

Ah ok, I see now. Guys feel like they are being labeled as misogynists and rapists just for being masculine. I think it's kind of a hyperbolic response tbh. Our media has been ripe with examples of sexual assault and rape on basically a daily basis, so if there is an ad that attacks this kind of crime, I cant disagree with it. This is mainstream media we are talking about, so whatever.

Cucks? Calm down man, I don't feel identified as a rapist because of the ad. You know how you sometimes accuse me of reading too much into things...?

This kind of sums it up imo.

Though, im curious:

I'm a privileged white guy.

What makes you a privileged white guy?

 

[Carpe Mortem]

Lol people are mad about an ad. I've never been an aggressive feminist, if anything I'd say I'm a very pragmatic and truly equal treatment individual. And any dude who's offended by a television ad is just as big of a crybaby as the women offended by a music video or the Muslims offended by South Park. The lack of actual nihilsm I'm seeing this past week is just disgusting, a just cause for offense.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Meanwhile, a political campaign commercial uses a single anecdote of a black guy committing rape and murder while on parole, and nearly every black person on Earth calls it hate speech.

 

[CiG]

Ah ok, I see now. Guys feel like they are being labeled as misogynists and rapists just for being masculine. I think it's kind of a hyperbolic response tbh. Our media has been ripe with examples of sexual assault and rape on basically a daily basis, so if there is an ad that attacks this kind of crime, I cant disagree with it. This is mainstream media we are talking about, so whatever.

Yes, rape and sexual assault taking place in the realms of the people who make these adverts and work for corporations, but nothing in the advert addresses that, just shows a bunch of average joe nobodies and shits on them.

A #MeToo advert should actually take place in the context of that hashtag. But corporations are cowards and don't want to rub CEOs the wrong way, because we all know those are the types of men doing this shit.

And any dude who's offended by a television ad is just as big of a crybaby as the women offended by a music video or the Muslims offended by South Park.

That's fair, but of course one of those 3 is always seen as unreasonable and terrible and the rest seen as justified when backlash occurs.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

To be fair, I doubt that advert companies are massive rape dens either. Maybe some pussy-for-play action but the real problem isn't the advertisement itself, which I certainly don't take any personal offense to, as much as it is how it's a blatantly politically-crafted propaganda piece that feeds into typical leftist narratives. It doesn't effectively target where violence is most significant among males. Wake me up when Lenny Kravitz makes a commercial about his fellow African-Americans and how black men need to step up and stop disproportionately committing all forms of violent crime in the country, including against women.

 

[Carpe Mortem]

They know some people will be offended. They know others, probably more than the prior in this climate, will give them enormous props and even switch to their brand. Can we really fault an entity for profit if they uh... Try to make more profit? It's not a government agency for fucks sake it's a razor company.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Governments and corporations have never been closer in American history. I don't know what favors P&G owes, but certainly all the tech and pharma companies push this bullshit under political pressure to.

 

[CiG]

They know some people will be offended. They know others, probably more than the prior in this climate, will give them enormous props and even switch to their brand. Can we really fault an entity for profit if they uh... Try to make more profit? It's not a government agency for fucks sake it's a razor company.

If a company who predominantly sell to men think shitting on men for political points will make them more profit, all power to them but somehow I think that's pretty autistic. Gaming companies are already experiencing the results of such a stupid idea.

 

[Carpe Mortem]

Don't get me wrong I know orgs are in bed with each other left and right but we are far from a point where it's harmful to the general public. Nobody is being forced to use these products and the currently existing product doesn't have "ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS" emblazoned on the side of it or anything. It's a money grab. It's controversial enough to gain new customers, but safe enough to keep most existing customers - the product is unchanged and performs just as well as last month.

 

[CiG]

Completely disagree, I think it was a bad move if their aim is to gain more customers and make more money. It was quite blatantly a political virtue-signal. It's like when they created female Thor in comic books and all the lefties got behind it and shat on the people complaining, then when it came time to buy the new books the lefties overwhelmingly didn't support it, the uncaring centrists bought it and the people who were shat on didn't support it, so overall it lost money.

Political virtue signalling that simultaneously alienates the main consumer base is to me total idiocy. I would never do it as a business owner to my own company, it makes no sense at all. What, are feminist females going to now flood Gillette?

I guess we'll just wait for the inevitable numbers.

 

[Carpe Mortem]

Yes I'm curious as well. That's my primary interest in this case lol.

I stand by my words still. Razors are genderless if you're an intelligent bargain shopper, and not nearly a sexy enough consumable for people to brag about what brand they use over anything other than pure functionality.

 

[CiG]

That's why they shouldn't have risked this. Their products are easily replaced by a billion other companies not spewing political propaganda.

 

[Mort Divine]

Lenny Kravitz