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Approximately Infinite Universe
My heart just isn't in debating anymore. 
It isn't "clearly left-wing" at all, especially when you consider that the prime articulation of the wives' grievances was something to the approximation of "alcohol is causing men to fall short of their husbandly duties" which is, by definition, a complaint steeped in social conservatism.
Also by your definition of right-wing and left-wing, every single government in recorded history is left-wing except I suppose the US with its individualist constitution?
The fact you think "wokeism" is socially conservative when it actively seeks to dismantle (albeit clumsily) socially conservative concepts like gender roles, pronouns, the gender binary, monogamy etc is just retarded to me.
The fact that the right consistently fails at upholding social conservatism in policy isn't evidence that conservatism isn't right-wing but rather evidence that even on the right they understand that it's a dead end and a waste of political capital and energy. All the right can really suggest regarding social conservatism is a desire that private citizens live their values, because passing socially conservative policy necessarily restricts the freedoms of people who fall outside of that policy but socially progressive policy doesn't restrict social conservatives by contrast. Society is leaving these things behind and trying to keep them alive is politically dead.
That doesn't mean it isn't right-wing.
The Confederacy was left-wing now? So the slave-owning Confederates and the KKK were left-wing... care to eplain?
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I define leftism as collectivism and rightism as anti-collectivism. If you have a cleaner definition, let me know. To that end, asking the government to ban an entire private industry, one which spans back to the earliest recorded history, just because your drunk husband beats you, is clearly left-wing.
It isn't "clearly left-wing" at all, especially when you consider that the prime articulation of the wives' grievances was something to the approximation of "alcohol is causing men to fall short of their husbandly duties" which is, by definition, a complaint steeped in social conservatism.
Also by your definition of right-wing and left-wing, every single government in recorded history is left-wing except I suppose the US with its individualist constitution?
Do you think even modern leftism is somehow not socially conservative, e.g. wokeism? Conservatism is hardly right-wing anyways. With the sole exception of gun legislation (thanks as much to private support of organizations like the NRA as actual elected officials), conservatism has consistently failed to enact meaningful right-ward shifts in policy. There is hardly a "socially conservative" position of a given year that has not been forced out of the Overton window one generation later.
The fact you think "wokeism" is socially conservative when it actively seeks to dismantle (albeit clumsily) socially conservative concepts like gender roles, pronouns, the gender binary, monogamy etc is just retarded to me.
The fact that the right consistently fails at upholding social conservatism in policy isn't evidence that conservatism isn't right-wing but rather evidence that even on the right they understand that it's a dead end and a waste of political capital and energy. All the right can really suggest regarding social conservatism is a desire that private citizens live their values, because passing socially conservative policy necessarily restricts the freedoms of people who fall outside of that policy but socially progressive policy doesn't restrict social conservatives by contrast. Society is leaving these things behind and trying to keep them alive is politically dead.
That doesn't mean it isn't right-wing.
I disagree with your implication that the KKK was an inherently right-wing organization anyways. The KKK came about after the failed left-wing Confederate insurrection required resorting to pettier anarcho-tyrannical measures. It was the South that popularized sociology and class-determinism, that produced noted pantocrats, that opposed self-sufficient small-businesses in the name of global trade and economic maximalism, that produced two of the most left-wing presidents in our history, etc. By contrast, it was Lincoln's right-libertarian third-position that made the Gilded Age possible.
The Confederacy was left-wing now? So the slave-owning Confederates and the KKK were left-wing... care to eplain?
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