In Flames - Come Clarity

TJR>Colony>Lunar Strain/Subterranean>Reroute to Remain>Clayman>Whoracle>STYE

Reroute to Remain is actually an album with a fair amount of variety and some good songs. I think the production is good too, in that it's a refreshing change from the generic sound on Clayman. Clayman and Whoracle both suffer from having so-so production and too many similar songs.

STYE was total shit, but I'll probably check out this new one.
 
i like previous 2 albums more than this one. but i listened to it only a few times. btw it'll came out on february next year )
 
Jude said:
Not true. The stuff pre-Jester Race was mostly crap. Clayman was as good as or better than Colony and CC is better than RTR or STYE.
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Not true? It`s not a fact what i THINK about them.

After "Whoracle" they are really pretty boring.
 
STYE was bad... their worst actualy

Come Clarity is ok, i guess, it's far from being good old In Flames and is much closer to some of Soilwork's material.

has some good songs, but it's far from being a masterpiece
 
I actually have heard it. I know I'm bad - but I like to know what I'm buying. But I'm afraid I'm not going to buy this one.

I'm very dissappointed in "In Flames". What the hell has happened? I mean "Soundtracck to your escape" was heavy shit - very good. Still it wasn't what I wanted from In Flames. I'm really a old-school fan and I like (almost) everything up to Clay Man. Ofcuze Reroute to remain and STTYE was cool too, but it was something going wrong.

In this new album there's very little variation and almost all the songs include a clean vocal chorus part. To make it worse a duet with a woman in one song. Don't get me wrong it's well performed and shit, but I'm sorry it sucks! :(

This is metal - come on!! I expected much more!
 
N*Flaymz and 'melodic death metal' scene is the nu-metal for the 21st century. Don't be fooled.
Thanks to their nu filmclip, I now refere to them as iFlaymz. Wonder what other Mac products they can whore off in their next film clip.

How metal.
 
Ben_Bids_You_Farewell said:
N*Flaymz and 'melodic death metal' scene is the nu-metal for the 21st century. Don't be fooled.
Thanks to their nu filmclip, I now refere to them as iFlaymz. Wonder what other Mac products they can whore off in their next film clip.

How metal.
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So......you're gay.

That's what I drew from your post.
 
Lunar Strain wasn't that bad. I used to be in Love with that album and for a while chose it over their later releases. Then I fell in love with Whoracle and The Jester Race.

However Colony was pretty good, it was still a starting point for them to go downhill. Clayman was .. okay.. It lacked though. Then Reroute sucked, Soundtrack sucked even worse. And Now Come To Clarity ... Well.. If you want an example..

Think of their song "F(r)IEND".. And try to imagine it with more guitar melodies and less of those shitty samples. Atleast thats how I see it. I've only heard the album twice though..
 
Jude said:
Not true. The stuff pre-Jester Race was mostly crap. Clayman was as good as or better than Colony and CC is better than RTR or STYE.
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I know it's all personal opinion but to toss my own opinion out there I'd like to say that TJR was quite the snoozefest for me. It just sounded so weak and the songs didn't really seem to have any life to them. I think the first two In Flames albums were by far their best releases but I'm also a fan of their material up until STYE. I'd like to say that In Flames has never really been a great band. They've had some great songs but their consistency, for me, has been really lacking. A lot of the songs on their albums seem to really do nothing for me. I can listen to LS/Sub. all the way through no problem. After that I usually do a lot of skipping around on the other albums. I'm interested (due to what I read about it on UM earlier today) to see what the new In Flames album sounds like. I'm sure it's going to be humorously pathetic; however, I think I might find a few interesting tracks off it. For the record I'd like to say that In Flames did put on a great live show when I saw them back in Feb. of last year. The STYE material came off really well live. Too bad the album itself sounded like complete and utter trash.
 
Being a norwegian halfass, I can't be arsed to read the whole thread.
However, I'm a massive In Flames fan, I actually loved RTR and STYE, and their older stuff is great aswell. Come Clarity must rule, is my verdict for the time being.

So am I like a pansy-sellout-emo shit for liking RTR & STYE? Come on.. I love In Flames just as much as I love Opeth, In Flames make catchy supersongs with feel and groove, Opeth make massive, progressive, godlike SMART songs with a slightly different feel and groove.

I'm allowed to do that, yeah? :confused:
 
KjeXXXer said:
Being a norwegian halfass, I can't be arsed to read the whole thread.
However, I'm a massive In Flames fan, I actually loved RTR and STYE, and their older stuff is great aswell. Come Clarity must rule, is my verdict for the time being.

So am I like a pansy-sellout-emo shit for liking RTR & STYE? Come on.. I love In Flames just as much as I love Opeth, In Flames make catchy supersongs with feel and groove, Opeth make massive, progressive, godlike SMART songs with a slightly different feel and groove.

I'm allowed to do that, yeah? :confused:
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I don't think anyone is going to put a gun to your head for liking what you do. Criticizing someone for his or her taste in music is childish. I happen to listen to a lot of Japanese pop and rock music these days. If anyone wants to denounce me for my taste then my question is, "Who the fuck are you to make such acerbic remarks?" Chances are I'd probably catch some remarks like this from some pathetic mallgoth or snot-nosed metalhead who someone with some type of inferiority complex 'cause you come to an age where you realize that calling someone a fag over taste in music about the lamest thing you could possibly do and you just learn to not give a shit. I've seen people on this board make smart ass comments to other forumites about their musical taste and I just shake my head in disbelief at how stupid some of this trash is. Heh, granted some of it's funny but for the most part it's useless flamming and I guess it'd be nice if some of these dipshits were taken down a peg. Ah well...fuck all this writing. I'm going to jump on the hub and see if I can find this new In Flames album.
 
Clayman was good up until about track 7, after that it was dull. Jester Race never really got dull IMO, even when a track started to get boring there would at least be some awesome lead part or solo to keep it interesting.
 
It seems to me that most of the people who bash a band like In Flames are bashing them for reasons completely unrelated to the band and the music. Once a metal band such as In Flames starts to get somewhat "popular," people suddenly come to the conclusion that it's uncool to say you're a fan. And then people begin to fear the internet backlash of approving of anything that In Flames puts out. So they just respond with the always cool "In Flames is gay." This line immediately exempts you from the criticisms of the internet bullies that people seem so afraid of.

Anyway, I think Come Clarity is a pretty good album. Right now, I'd give it a 7/10. Better than the last two albums, which I happened to like. But I'm still a little disappointed with the production. The guitars sound a LITTLE clearer than they did on Soundtrack, but they still have that somewhat muddy quality to them. And even though Anders uses a lot of clean vocals on this album, they sound improved. Not nearly as whiny sounding like they were on Reroute to Remain. And I really miss the growl. I like his scream, but I just wish he had the ability to mix the screams with the growls the way he did on Colony. And I like the song "Dead End." You know, the song with the dreaded female vocals. I don't hear anyone whine when Dark Tranquillity uses female vocals, like they did on The Gallery and Projector. They must have "sold out" with The Gallery, right?
 
Well, I've always been an In Flames fan, regardless of what people think of them...granted I found out about them with the RTR album, probably not a good start but it was my first Metal album (again, probably not a good start) but my parents listened to olides and country when I grew up so it was up to me to do the research.

Anyway...Come Clarity isn't nearly as impressive as their earlier stuff (I think we can all agree on that), but IMO it is much better than the previous two before it...looking back on RTR it's not a very good album with the exception of a few songs.

I do miss the days of their Folk influences with Lunar/Sub. and they do sound their best on Jester Race and Whoracle, and Colony is a very well written album IMO but the recording on it lacks dynamics, it's too flat w/o the punch it needs to make it stand out like it really should have. Clayman's recording did get much better than the previous but like many it can be monotonous but is one of my favorites by them.

All in all, it's really sad to say that In Flames is a much more capable band then they show them selves to be, they have very talented musicians but I think the popularity has gotten to them and they've changed into something that has gotten away from their roots and why the started.

I'd love to see something 'new' but with the same intensity and aggression as Jester Race and the likes, but I don't think we'll see something like that from In Flames ever again.
 
Sickman said:
It seems to me that most of the people who bash a band like In Flames are bashing them for reasons completely unrelated to the band and the music. Once a metal band such as In Flames starts to get somewhat "popular," people suddenly come to the conclusion that it's uncool to say you're a fan. And then people begin to fear the internet backlash of approving of anything that In Flames puts out. So they just respond with the always cool "In Flames is gay." This line immediately exempts you from the criticisms of the internet bullies that people seem so afraid of.
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Possibly, but I just got into In Flames less than a year ago. I found that I like Jester Race through Clayman, and couldn't stand most of RTR/STYE (although Black and White and Reroute To Remain are two excellent songs which are among the first that got me into IF). I did hear negative things about the two 'bad' albums before hearing most of them. I was thinking 'Well RTR has to be good, the two songs I've heard are good.' Then I found out that they were not representative of the rest of the album. More or less the same with STYE and Evil In a Closet.
 
Sickman said:
It seems to me that most of the people who bash a band like In Flames are bashing them for reasons completely unrelated to the band and the music. Once a metal band such as In Flames starts to get somewhat "popular," people suddenly come to the conclusion that it's uncool to say you're a fan. And then people begin to fear the internet backlash of approving of anything that In Flames puts out. So they just respond with the always cool "In Flames is gay." This line immediately exempts you from the criticisms of the internet bullies that people seem so afraid of.

Anyway, I think Come Clarity is a pretty good album. Right now, I'd give it a 7/10. Better than the last two albums, which I happened to like. But I'm still a little disappointed with the production. The guitars sound a LITTLE clearer than they did on Soundtrack, but they still have that somewhat muddy quality to them. And even though Anders uses a lot of clean vocals on this album, they sound improved. Not nearly as whiny sounding like they were on Reroute to Remain. And I really miss the growl. I like his scream, but I just wish he had the ability to mix the screams with the growls the way he did on Colony. And I like the song "Dead End." You know, the song with the dreaded female vocals. I don't hear anyone whine when Dark Tranquillity uses female vocals, like they did on The Gallery and Projector. They must have "sold out" with The Gallery, right?
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This is the Opeth board. Opeth is a band that metal elitist(like what your trying to peg those who say the new In Flames sucks in here as)rip on constantly. I agree with you that its really annoying when a band gets slightly popular and some of the retards in the metal scene turn their heads and speak trash of it. But that is not the case here. Opeth is fairly popular these days as well, if you havent noticed. I agree that the last 2 IF albums sucked, I never heard Clayman, and I loved Colony, TJR and Whoreacle. In Flames has went downhill as far as I see it. Of course that is just my opinion though. I havent heard the new album and I dont plan on hearing after it is released ethier. I have had very little interest in this band for awhile now, all starting when I saw them opening for Iced Earth. It was one of the worst performances I have seen a band give (next to Devil Driver).


Oh, and I am with Tumn here. This thread is about UNRELEASED material, no? Isnt that what got this board in trouble before? Come on people...
 
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