Is metal just an outlet for anger ?
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FEZZILLA
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I think its just as stupid as you do that women like rap. You'll no argument from me. But metal is too evil and negative which scares away female fans. There's nothing more people can relate to.
The metal market is decided by the youth...not old men like us. Every single day WWII vets and 80s metal fans die of natural causes. We are old and dying men now. Almost all the youth listen to rap. I have filmed hate metal bands from the Chicago area and every single time I never saw one person not connected to the band walk into the club to see them. This is because hate metal just outright sucks. But that's the only market there is in America and its a very dead market. But if you're in the business to sell 10 tapes then metal is the music you want to get into.
Then you make comments like "pray it out of existence." You have no idea the efforts I've done to revive the metal market but its this stupid <---added emphasis on stupid---Satanic shit that turned metal into polka. So congratulations...enjoy your polka. I've seen the market and sales on metal music and its done gone over---done.
FEZZILLA
Member
You really believe that? Kinda hard to get a decent size female following when the artists only sell 10 tapes. But anything more than 10-tapes sold is considered a sellout. This leaves the artists in poverty and making more money flipping burgers than performing music.
I don't think the problem with metal is so much that black metal exist. Some of those acts are very talented and appeal to even non-Satanists. Though when Satan metal and hate metal is all that's left then the movement will die as it is dead now. I still get band offers even though I no longer perform music anymore. I charge $500 hr. for singing. I cannot sing for two beers a night anymore. I have seen the money-market, know what young people listen to, know their overall attitudes, and I cannot get involved with such a hateful scene like metal and be broke broke. I have to make a living and money is important to live a comfortable life. I did not start a music career years back to become a broke Satanic priest. I was passionate about music but I also knew that success would be the only path to a sustainable career. People who become musicians to be flat broke have no priorities or direction in life.
FEZZILLA
Member
If you like metal then enjoy it as an old man. But don't live your entire life around the success of metal music because I can assure you there is more to life and living life than metal music. Cry if you have to. My tears shot half way across the room when I realized my singing career was over. I worked so damn hard to be the best I could be and all for absolutely nothing. Yeah, I cried very hard that day. All my passion and love for singing and music was stolen from my existence. Truthfully, I could sing before I could talk. I even remember singing in the crib but have no memories earlier than that where I could talk. It was like a part of my soul, my deepest expression, going back to my days in the baby crib, were ripped out of me.
Fortunately for me there were things in this life I placed more value on than metal music...or music in general. My Christian faith sustains me and is more valuable to me than metal music ever was. I still love music as much as ever before. But I'm an old man now and my youth is behind me. And even if I was still young I would probably avoid the music Industry. I'm not an evil person and place no pride in hate. So I enjoy listening to music as a fan. Still every now and then I can feel my heart break a little when I think back on all the hard work in training I did and the deep expressionate passion that went into my entire vision. Our society radically changed, people became more hateful, and music just conformed to that hate. I was not the sex, drugs and Satan type. So for me it was a great loss in my life. But I had to keep my head on straight and walk the path I knew did not lead to disappointment. For I looked back on my life and saw that the most cherished moments in my life were the times when I was closest to Jesus Christ. From that point on I would get up...get back on my feet again, and walk the path I knew was true and would not lead me to anymore disappointments. I posted this verse about an hour ago in facebook:
"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!"
~ Isaiah 5:20-21
Look at our society today and see how people have walked opposite to the warnings of this verse in Isaiah. Yet I'm sure some on this forum will read this and mock it...proving the point of this verse. For if we are all supposed to live contrary to the word of God, and we are all supposed to be evil antichrists, then we are lost as a nation and will eventually be brought to ruin because of our evil ways as a nation. And I simply cannot live for that...no matter how much I love music.
I don't hate God; I don't hate my country; I don't hate my parents; I don't hate President Trump, and I don't hate you either. I'm no communist, Nazi or Socialist. I will never represent such depravity. So metal music has just become everything I can no longer relate to. So I'll listen to some old stuff from time to time, usually when driving to work and back. I no longer have a stereo inside my home because that would take up wall space and I need all the wall space I can have for bookcases. I'm a bookcase short right now because I ran out of room for more. So now books are piling up everywhere until I move and get a bigger place that has more wall space for bookcases.
CiG
Approximately Infinite Universe
FEZZILLA
Member
The metal scene lost lots of great artists. We truly do live in the Dark Age of music. But it could be worse...we could revert back to a new Dark Age period. I think this is something we should take seriously and avoid it at all cost. This is why I turned against the Democrat Party and the progressives in general. Not only did they engineer a society that would be devoid with good music, but if people continue to vote for these sick evil bastards I guarantee you our nation will fall, the west will fall, all the countries that relied on American prosperity will fall, evil will dominate, and chaos and ruin will lead to a new Dark Age era. As a result, millions of people will die off. Millions more will be slaughtered. Islam will most likely dominate the world, and our children and grandchildren will be slaughtered like pigs. This is the world the Democrats want us to vote for. There was a time in my life when I used to be a Democrat. Well not anymore! I do not believe that the mentally insane should be running anything let alone a country! People don't learn from history because schools no longer teach history. But what we are looking at today in the Democrat Party is without a doubt something much worse than Nazi Germany. What I see is the rise of the Biblical Antichrist. All the prophecies harmonize to this conclusion. Its just like in the days of Noah: people are mocking and laughing and ignoring the message. But ruin will overtake them and their laughter will be heard no more.
I think what metal music needs is a whole new approach to everything. Anger is good but shouldn't anger be justified? It would be a righteous anger and something that does appeal to a great many people. But anger alone cannot bring metal back. If it cannot relate to love in any reasonable way, it won't come back. Metal should rebel against unfair norms, against self-righteous politicians who are lawless in their ways. Yes, metal does need to get angry again--not hateful--but angry. But this anger must come from the love of the heart and it must contain a message that will most utterly make liberals freak out! And what do liberals hate? They hate truth!
Sorry if I am going off on a tangent but let me exemplify my point.
I am banned from Christianforums right now. I don't know if the ban is permanent or for three months. What did I do wrong? Here's the honest truth. CF conforms to political correctness. So when Christians come on that forum they are bastardized by all the atheist logins who say they are non-denomination. And since there is a rule there that Christians can't call out infiltrating heretics, these radicals take over the forum and, just like in Nazi Germany, they teach their evil in Jesus' name.
So I see this guy who claims to be a missionary in the Philippians. He's preaching about Islam and how great Islam is and how peaceful and loving and kumbaya it is with all the gumdrop smiles. So he's teaching Islam according to liberal talking points. So I began refuting his lies from Islam's most sacred sources. An example of this was my last reply before getting banned.
He said Christians and Jews are saved through Islam. Then he quoted Qur'an 2:62,
"Verily, those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and does righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve*."
Doesn't that sound nice? Well he left out the footnote:
*footnote: "(V.2:62) This Verse (and Verse 5:69), mentioned in the Qur'an should not be misinterpreted by the reader as mentioned by Ibn Abbas (Tafsir At-Tabari, Vol.1, Page 323) that the provision of this Verse was abrogated by the Verse 3:85: "And whosoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter, he will be one of the losers." [i.e. after the coming of Prophet Muhammad on earth, no other religion except Islam, will be accepted from anyone]."
The verse is abrogated and obsolete in Islam! Yet I am the one who gets into trouble for correcting this heretic.
He went on with more liberal learnings:
Qur'an 5:69,
"Surely, those who believe (in the Oneness of Allah, in His Messenger Muhammad, and all that was revealed to him from Allah), and those who are the Jews and the Sabians and the Christians, --- whosoever believed in Allah and the Last Day, and worked righteousness, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve." *
He fails to tell the forum that the verse is abrogated. This is the footnote found in the Muhsin Khan Noble Qur'an:
*footnote: "(V.5:69) This verse (V.5:69) and (Verse 2:62) should not be misinterpreted by the reader as mentioned by Ibn 'Abbas (Tafsir At-Tabari, Vol.1, Page 323) that the provision of this Verse was abrogated by the (V.3:85). And after the coming of the Prophet Muhammad, no other religion except Islam will be accepted from anyone."
More examples of abrogated verses quoted by liberal apologists for Islam:
Qur'an 15:85,
"And We created not the heavens and the earth and all that is between them except with truth, and the Hour is surely, coming, so overlook (O Muhammad), their faults with gracious forgiveness. [This was before the ordainment of Jihad---holy fighting in Allah's cause]."
Tafsir al-Jalalayn (Aisha Bewley translation):
"We did not create the heavens and earth and everything between them, except with truth. The Hour is certainly coming -- the time when everyone will be repaid for their actions cannot be avoided. So, Muhammad, turn away from your people graciously and do not be grieved by them. This was abrogated by the Ayat of the Sword."
Qur'an 43:89,
"So turn away from them (O Muhammad), and say: Salam (peace)! But they will come to know.* "
*Footnote: "(V.43:89) The provision of this Verse was abrogated by the revelation of the Verse of fighting against them (V.9:5)"
Noble Qur'an 45:14,
"Say (O Muhammad) to the believers to forgive those who (harm them and) hope not for the Days of Allah (i.e. His Recompense), that He may recompense people, according to what they have earned (i.e. to punish these disbelievers who harm the believers).* "
*Footnote: "(V.45:14) The provision of this Verse was abrogated by the Verse of Jihad (holy fighting) (V.9:36) against the polytheists."
Qur'an 2:109,
"Many of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) wish that if they could turn you away as disbelievers after you have believed, out of envy from their ownselves, even, after the truth (that Muhammad is Allah's Messenger) has become manifest unto them. But forgive and overlook, till Allah brings His Command*. Verily, Allah is Able to do all things."
*footnote: "(V.2:109) The provision of this verse has been abrogated by the (V.9:29). (Tafsir At-Tabari)"
Do you see what I mean? The entire progressive establishment is literally trying to kill us and we are supposed to sing for then as their cheerleaders? I don't think so! They all lie. I just provided a small example of liberal lies in their talking points. So am I to follow these liars? Will I start an evil metal band and sing against the Christians who are not lying? Maybe I can call them liars anyways in hopes my sales will go up? How has that been working for metal? Ask a rapper and he'll tell you its not working. Metal music sales are in the dump. This is because its too hateful and attacks all the wrong people---namely, their most loyal fans!!
Metal is not a lifestyle. Its a sound. Its a very diverse sound. Yet today there is only one metal sound and that is hate. This sound is antiChrist. Well I'm a Christian. The majority of Americans are Christians. I won't buy this hate metal that supports lying liberals and the Islamic caliphate against our civilized world!!
FEZZILLA
Member
Metal musicians no longer have balls. Too afraid of the big bad liberal establishment. Too afraid to be real. To afraid to be rejected by Follywood. But big balls means breaking down those fortress walls and making a positive change which is beneficial to the good people of the world. But...metal has to cater to the mentally sick.
Metal supports Islam because metal by and large votes liberal. Islam bans all singing, music, musical instruments and the sale of music instruments. Metal votes Democrat...Islam wins. No more music. Nobody ever said ignorance was rewarding.
Metal supports Islam because metal by and large votes liberal. Islam bans all singing, music, musical instruments and the sale of music instruments. Metal votes Democrat...Islam wins. No more music. Nobody ever said ignorance was rewarding.
CiG
Approximately Infinite Universe
FEZZILLA
Member
So lets all ban together and vote Democrat 2020 and empower Islam! This will show those pesky Christians! Right? Ignorance is not rewarding to metal artists or fans.
Noble Qur'an 31:6, Luqman (Makkah Period)
"And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing) to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah, or the Verses of the Qur'an) by way of mockery. For each there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-fire)."
Tafsir: (The exegesis of the Qur'an):
Tafsir Ibn Kathir,
"After Allah stated the state of the blessed; those who are guided by the Book of Allah, and thereby listening to its recitation they do benefit; as Allah says: {Allah has sent down the best statement, a Book (this Qur'an), its parts resembling each other in goodness and truth, oft-repeated. The skins of those who fear their Lord shiver from it (when they recite it or hear it). Then their skin and their heart soften to the remembrance of Allah.}, Allah followed with mentioning the state of the wretched ones, they hasten to listening to the flutes and singing accompanied by musical instruments; as Ibn Masud similarly commented on this verses: {And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah} saying, 'By Allah, this refers to singing.' Ibn Masud repeated it three times. Idle speech may refers to polytheism, or that it is all kind of word that hinders people from perceiving the Ayat (signs, proofs and verses) of Allah, and from following His Path. This view was adopted by Ibn Jarir. {to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah} meaning, such a person does this only in opposition to Islam and its people (Muslims). {and takes it by way of mockery.} i.e. in reference it is to those who mock the Path of Allah, {For such there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-fire).} i.e. just as they belittle and mocked the Verses of Allah as a means of showing their despise to the signs and the Path of Allah, they will be humiliated in the permanent and everlasting accumulating torment on the Day of Resurrection."
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Noble Qur'an 53:59-61,
59. Do you then wonder at this recitation (the Qur'an)?
60. And you laught at it and weep not,
61. Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements (singing).
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Ash Shifa, Part 4, Chapter 1, Section 2, p.378,
"Similarly on the Day of Conquest, he ordered the killing of Ibn Khatal and his two slavegirls who used to sing his curses on the Prophet."
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Islamic Jurisprudence:
The following is taken from one of the books of Islamic Jurisprudence called "Heavenly Ornaments (Bahishti Zewar)," the Darul-Ishaat edition. This is a classic manual of Islamic Sacred Law which was written with the muslim woman in mind, and is often given to a muslim couple as a wedding gift. On pp.459-560 you'll clearly read that music, dancing and singing is banned in Islam:
Dancing
"There are two kinds of dances in a wedding and both are disallowed and unlawful. Men invite prostitutes to dance before them and women have professional singers perform before them. In the former ghayr mahram men watch women and this is adultery of the eye. When they hear her speak or sing, that is adultery of the ears and when they talk about her that is adultery of the tongue. When one is inclined towards her that is adultery of the heart. Those who are very shameful even touch her and this is adultery of the hand and if they walk to her then that is adultery of the feet. Some dare to do the evil deed too and that is the real adultery. It is stated clearly in a Hadith:
Just as the evil act is sin, so too looking (at it) is the sin of the eye, hearing of the ear; walking of the feet; etc. Further, if sin is done openly, it is worst in the eyes of Shairah."
Continued on p.459,
"Music is also played unchecked. This too is a sin. Allah's Messenger said, "My Lord has commanded me to eliminate musical instruments*. It is worth considering the amount of sin a man commits by promoting that which the Prophet came to eliminate. There is also loss in the world for women whose husbands incline to have a soft corner for the dancing girls. These women will then repent all their life. It is strange that these women take pride in observing these customs and the sins accompanying them. This dampen faith."
*footnote: "Transmitted by Ahmad. narrated by Abu Umamah that the Prophet said, "Surely Allah sent me as a mercy and guide to the worlds and commanded me to abolish mazamir (oboe; musical instruments), idols which were worshipped in pre-Islamic days.....The Hadith concludes: It is not lawful to buy or sell them, teach them, trade in them. Their proceeds are also unlawful."
p.460 continued,
"Similarly, dancing among women with or without music should be disallowed. Our books tell us that we are not permitted to have monkey's dance, then how may we expect human being to be permitted to dance. Men may catch a glimpse of women dancing and the same evil of which we have spoken above may take place. Sometimes, these women also sing and their voice carries through to the men. Since it is unlawful for them to hear women singing, the woman who is responsible for this adds this sin to her own. Some women put a cap on the dancing woman's head and since it is a sin to assume appearance of a man, the women who place the cap share in the sin. In short, music, singing, dancing, etc. are sinful and these women often miss their Salah."
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Reliance of the Traveller (the classic manual of Islamic sacred law):
Musical Instruments
"r40.1, "(Ibn Hajar Haytami As for the certain condemnation of musical instruments, flutes, strings, and the like by the Truthful and Trustful (Allah bless him and give him peace), who
"does not speak from personal caprice: it is nothing besides a revelation inspired" (Koran 53:3-4),
Let those who refuse to obey him beware lest calamity strike them, or a painful torment. The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said:
(1) "Allah Mighty and Majestic sent me as a guidance and mercy to believers and commanded me to do away with musical instruments, flutes, strings, crucifixes, and the affair of the pre-Islamic period of ignorance."
(2) "On the day of resurrection, Allah will pour molten lead into the ears of whoever sits listening to a songstress,"
(3) "Song makes hypocrisy grow in the heart as water does herbage."
(4) "This Community will experience the swallowing up of some people by the earth, metamorphosis of some into animals, and being rained upon by stones." Someone asked, "When will this be, O Messenger of Allah?" and he said, "When songstress and musical instruments appear and wine is held to be lawful."
(5) "There will be peoples in my community who will hold fornication, silk, wine, and musical instruments to be lawful...."
All of this is explicit and compelling textual evidence that musical instruments of all types are unlawful (Kaff al-ra'a' 'an muharramat al-lahw waal-sama (y49), 2.269-70).
r40.2, "It is unlawful to use musical instruments---such as those which drinkers are known for, like the mandolin, lute, cymbals, and flute--or to listen to them. It is permissible to play the tambourine at weddings, circumstances, and other times, even if it has bells on its sides. Beating the kuba, a long drum with a narrow middle, is unlawful (Mughni al-muhtaj ila ma'rifa ma'anialfaz al-minhaj (y73). 4.429-30).
SINGING UNACCOMPANIED BY MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS
r40.3, "(Ibn Hajar Haytami As for listening to singing that is not accompanied by instruments, one should know that singing or listening to singing is offensive except under the circumstances to be mentioned in what follows. Some scholars hold that singing is sunna at weddings and the like, and of our Imams, Ghazali and 'Izz ibn 'Abd al-Salam say that it is sunna if it moves one to a noble state of mind that makes one remember the hereafter. It is clear from this that all poetry which encourages good deeds, wisdom, noble qualities, abstinence from worldly things, or similar pious traits such as urging one to obey Allah, follow the sunna, or shun disobedience, is sunna to write, sing, or listen to, as more than one of our Imams have stated is obvious, since using a means to do good is itself doing good. (Kaff al-ra'a' 'an muhar-ramat al-lahw wa al-sama' (y49), 2.273)."
w52.1 (426-31), "Playing stringed instruments; listening to them; playing reed instruments; listening to them; beating a long drum (kuba); or listening to it;
(426-33), "embellishing a poetic ode by mentioning a particular woman, even without indecency, or mentioning an unnamed woman indirectly; or to sing such an ode;
(434-37), "poetry that contains mockery of a Muslim, obscenity, or lying; or singing such poetry and spreading it;
(438), composing panegyrics with poetic figures of speech that exceed normal bounds, earning one's living thereby and spending most of one's time at it;
(439) becoming habituated to a lesser sin or sins such that one's disobedience becomes more than one's obedience;
(440) not repenting from an enormity;
(441-42) hatred of the Medina Helpers (Ansar); or speaking badly of any of the prophetic Companions (Allah be well pleased with them all).
k2.3, It is invalid to transact something which is not useful (O: whether the reason for invalidity is the article's baseness or the smallness of the amount being dealt with,) such as vermin, a single grain of wheat, or unlawful musical instruments (dis:r40) (O: such as the mandolin or flute, since there is no lawful benefit in them)."
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The Hadith:
Sunan Ibn Majah, Vol.5, Hadith 4020,
"It was narrated from Abu Malik Ash'ari that the Messenger of Allah said: "People among my nation will drink wine, calling it by another name, and musical instruments will be played for them and singing girls (will sing for them). Allah will cause the earth to swallow them up, and will turn them into monkeys and pigs."
(Hasan)
Comments:
a. Every intoxicant regardless of its name is forbidden.
b. Change the name does not change the religious ruling of the matter. For example, usury although it is named interest or markup, it is still considered usury.
c. Tricks do not make an unlawful matter a lawful one, rather the sin becomes more severe.
d. Playing musical instruments and listening to them is forbidden."
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Noble Qur'an 53:59-61, The Star (Makkah Period)
59. Do you then wonder at this recitation (the Qur'an)?
60. And you laught at it and weep not,
61. Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements (singing).
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Holy Bible:
Psalm 59:16,
"But I will sing of your strength,
in the morning I will sing of
your love;
for you are my fortress,
my refuge in times of
trouble."
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But hey, its more important to get rid of Donald Trump and bring in more muslims so they can take over the country. Yeah, lets sing about that
And with that vote there goes all your metal music! What I have posted here comes from my Islamic library which consist of Islamic publications found in just about any Islamic Bookstore. The memes I posted came from two Imams on facebook I seen.
Now you know why metal sales are at their all time low. Nobody wants to get slaughtered by muslims or see music banned etc, etc. Isn't there any other sound metal can do besides hate? Are there other topics metal lyricists can write about besides hating Christians and Jews. And yeah, don't forget hating Israel, we wouldn't want to disappoint the Nazis and Muhammad who influenced the Nazis:
Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol.4, Book 56, Chapter 94, Hadith 2925,
"(94) CHAPTER. Fighting against the Jews.
2925. Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah's Messenger said, "You (Muslims) will fight against the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e., slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "
Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol.4, Book 56, Hadith 2926,
"Narrated Abu Hurairah: Allah's Messenger said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight against the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be behind will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.' "
Wow, its amazing how killing Jews got so popular among liberals who call people like me "Nazis" for not embracing Islam and transgender sickness. But we need to support Islam...yeah...that will teach those Christians, right?
Hate is blinding and makes people dumb. If the Democrats win in 2020 say goodbye to music and hello sharia. Even now musims in the White House secretly give out U.S. secrets to their jihadi friends over in Islamo-land. But that's all fine. Our country will collapse and we'll all die-off or get slaughtered. Its all good. As long as our music is hateful and attacks Christianity then that justifies everything
Metal music has destroyed metal music.
Noble Qur'an 31:6, Luqman (Makkah Period)
"And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing) to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah, or the Verses of the Qur'an) by way of mockery. For each there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-fire)."
Tafsir: (The exegesis of the Qur'an):
Tafsir Ibn Kathir,
"After Allah stated the state of the blessed; those who are guided by the Book of Allah, and thereby listening to its recitation they do benefit; as Allah says: {Allah has sent down the best statement, a Book (this Qur'an), its parts resembling each other in goodness and truth, oft-repeated. The skins of those who fear their Lord shiver from it (when they recite it or hear it). Then their skin and their heart soften to the remembrance of Allah.}, Allah followed with mentioning the state of the wretched ones, they hasten to listening to the flutes and singing accompanied by musical instruments; as Ibn Masud similarly commented on this verses: {And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah} saying, 'By Allah, this refers to singing.' Ibn Masud repeated it three times. Idle speech may refers to polytheism, or that it is all kind of word that hinders people from perceiving the Ayat (signs, proofs and verses) of Allah, and from following His Path. This view was adopted by Ibn Jarir. {to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah} meaning, such a person does this only in opposition to Islam and its people (Muslims). {and takes it by way of mockery.} i.e. in reference it is to those who mock the Path of Allah, {For such there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-fire).} i.e. just as they belittle and mocked the Verses of Allah as a means of showing their despise to the signs and the Path of Allah, they will be humiliated in the permanent and everlasting accumulating torment on the Day of Resurrection."
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Noble Qur'an 53:59-61,
59. Do you then wonder at this recitation (the Qur'an)?
60. And you laught at it and weep not,
61. Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements (singing).
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Ash Shifa, Part 4, Chapter 1, Section 2, p.378,
"Similarly on the Day of Conquest, he ordered the killing of Ibn Khatal and his two slavegirls who used to sing his curses on the Prophet."
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Islamic Jurisprudence:
The following is taken from one of the books of Islamic Jurisprudence called "Heavenly Ornaments (Bahishti Zewar)," the Darul-Ishaat edition. This is a classic manual of Islamic Sacred Law which was written with the muslim woman in mind, and is often given to a muslim couple as a wedding gift. On pp.459-560 you'll clearly read that music, dancing and singing is banned in Islam:
Dancing
"There are two kinds of dances in a wedding and both are disallowed and unlawful. Men invite prostitutes to dance before them and women have professional singers perform before them. In the former ghayr mahram men watch women and this is adultery of the eye. When they hear her speak or sing, that is adultery of the ears and when they talk about her that is adultery of the tongue. When one is inclined towards her that is adultery of the heart. Those who are very shameful even touch her and this is adultery of the hand and if they walk to her then that is adultery of the feet. Some dare to do the evil deed too and that is the real adultery. It is stated clearly in a Hadith:
Just as the evil act is sin, so too looking (at it) is the sin of the eye, hearing of the ear; walking of the feet; etc. Further, if sin is done openly, it is worst in the eyes of Shairah."
Continued on p.459,
"Music is also played unchecked. This too is a sin. Allah's Messenger said, "My Lord has commanded me to eliminate musical instruments*. It is worth considering the amount of sin a man commits by promoting that which the Prophet came to eliminate. There is also loss in the world for women whose husbands incline to have a soft corner for the dancing girls. These women will then repent all their life. It is strange that these women take pride in observing these customs and the sins accompanying them. This dampen faith."
*footnote: "Transmitted by Ahmad. narrated by Abu Umamah that the Prophet said, "Surely Allah sent me as a mercy and guide to the worlds and commanded me to abolish mazamir (oboe; musical instruments), idols which were worshipped in pre-Islamic days.....The Hadith concludes: It is not lawful to buy or sell them, teach them, trade in them. Their proceeds are also unlawful."
p.460 continued,
"Similarly, dancing among women with or without music should be disallowed. Our books tell us that we are not permitted to have monkey's dance, then how may we expect human being to be permitted to dance. Men may catch a glimpse of women dancing and the same evil of which we have spoken above may take place. Sometimes, these women also sing and their voice carries through to the men. Since it is unlawful for them to hear women singing, the woman who is responsible for this adds this sin to her own. Some women put a cap on the dancing woman's head and since it is a sin to assume appearance of a man, the women who place the cap share in the sin. In short, music, singing, dancing, etc. are sinful and these women often miss their Salah."
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Reliance of the Traveller (the classic manual of Islamic sacred law):
Musical Instruments
"r40.1, "(Ibn Hajar Haytami
As for the certain condemnation of musical instruments, flutes, strings, and the like by the Truthful and Trustful (Allah bless him and give him peace), who"does not speak from personal caprice: it is nothing besides a revelation inspired" (Koran 53:3-4),
Let those who refuse to obey him beware lest calamity strike them, or a painful torment. The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said:
(1) "Allah Mighty and Majestic sent me as a guidance and mercy to believers and commanded me to do away with musical instruments, flutes, strings, crucifixes, and the affair of the pre-Islamic period of ignorance."
(2) "On the day of resurrection, Allah will pour molten lead into the ears of whoever sits listening to a songstress,"
(3) "Song makes hypocrisy grow in the heart as water does herbage."
(4) "This Community will experience the swallowing up of some people by the earth, metamorphosis of some into animals, and being rained upon by stones." Someone asked, "When will this be, O Messenger of Allah?" and he said, "When songstress and musical instruments appear and wine is held to be lawful."
(5) "There will be peoples in my community who will hold fornication, silk, wine, and musical instruments to be lawful...."
All of this is explicit and compelling textual evidence that musical instruments of all types are unlawful (Kaff al-ra'a' 'an muharramat al-lahw waal-sama (y49), 2.269-70).
r40.2, "It is unlawful to use musical instruments---such as those which drinkers are known for, like the mandolin, lute, cymbals, and flute--or to listen to them. It is permissible to play the tambourine at weddings, circumstances, and other times, even if it has bells on its sides. Beating the kuba, a long drum with a narrow middle, is unlawful (Mughni al-muhtaj ila ma'rifa ma'anialfaz al-minhaj (y73). 4.429-30).
SINGING UNACCOMPANIED BY MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS
r40.3, "(Ibn Hajar Haytami
As for listening to singing that is not accompanied by instruments, one should know that singing or listening to singing is offensive except under the circumstances to be mentioned in what follows. Some scholars hold that singing is sunna at weddings and the like, and of our Imams, Ghazali and 'Izz ibn 'Abd al-Salam say that it is sunna if it moves one to a noble state of mind that makes one remember the hereafter. It is clear from this that all poetry which encourages good deeds, wisdom, noble qualities, abstinence from worldly things, or similar pious traits such as urging one to obey Allah, follow the sunna, or shun disobedience, is sunna to write, sing, or listen to, as more than one of our Imams have stated is obvious, since using a means to do good is itself doing good. (Kaff al-ra'a' 'an muhar-ramat al-lahw wa al-sama' (y49), 2.273)."w52.1 (426-31), "Playing stringed instruments; listening to them; playing reed instruments; listening to them; beating a long drum (kuba); or listening to it;
(426-33), "embellishing a poetic ode by mentioning a particular woman, even without indecency, or mentioning an unnamed woman indirectly; or to sing such an ode;
(434-37), "poetry that contains mockery of a Muslim, obscenity, or lying; or singing such poetry and spreading it;
(438), composing panegyrics with poetic figures of speech that exceed normal bounds, earning one's living thereby and spending most of one's time at it;
(439) becoming habituated to a lesser sin or sins such that one's disobedience becomes more than one's obedience;
(440) not repenting from an enormity;
(441-42) hatred of the Medina Helpers (Ansar); or speaking badly of any of the prophetic Companions (Allah be well pleased with them all).
k2.3, It is invalid to transact something which is not useful (O: whether the reason for invalidity is the article's baseness or the smallness of the amount being dealt with,) such as vermin, a single grain of wheat, or unlawful musical instruments (dis:r40) (O: such as the mandolin or flute, since there is no lawful benefit in them)."
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The Hadith:
Sunan Ibn Majah, Vol.5, Hadith 4020,
"It was narrated from Abu Malik Ash'ari that the Messenger of Allah said: "People among my nation will drink wine, calling it by another name, and musical instruments will be played for them and singing girls (will sing for them). Allah will cause the earth to swallow them up, and will turn them into monkeys and pigs."
(Hasan)
Comments:
a. Every intoxicant regardless of its name is forbidden.
b. Change the name does not change the religious ruling of the matter. For example, usury although it is named interest or markup, it is still considered usury.
c. Tricks do not make an unlawful matter a lawful one, rather the sin becomes more severe.
d. Playing musical instruments and listening to them is forbidden."
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Noble Qur'an 53:59-61, The Star (Makkah Period)
59. Do you then wonder at this recitation (the Qur'an)?
60. And you laught at it and weep not,
61. Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements (singing).
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Holy Bible:
Psalm 59:16,
"But I will sing of your strength,
in the morning I will sing of
your love;
for you are my fortress,
my refuge in times of
trouble."
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But hey, its more important to get rid of Donald Trump and bring in more muslims so they can take over the country. Yeah, lets sing about that
And with that vote there goes all your metal music! What I have posted here comes from my Islamic library which consist of Islamic publications found in just about any Islamic Bookstore. The memes I posted came from two Imams on facebook I seen.
Now you know why metal sales are at their all time low. Nobody wants to get slaughtered by muslims or see music banned etc, etc. Isn't there any other sound metal can do besides hate? Are there other topics metal lyricists can write about besides hating Christians and Jews. And yeah, don't forget hating Israel, we wouldn't want to disappoint the Nazis and Muhammad who influenced the Nazis:
Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol.4, Book 56, Chapter 94, Hadith 2925,
"(94) CHAPTER. Fighting against the Jews.
2925. Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah's Messenger said, "You (Muslims) will fight against the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e., slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "
Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol.4, Book 56, Hadith 2926,
"Narrated Abu Hurairah: Allah's Messenger said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight against the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be behind will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.' "
Wow, its amazing how killing Jews got so popular among liberals who call people like me "Nazis" for not embracing Islam and transgender sickness. But we need to support Islam...yeah...that will teach those Christians, right?
Hate is blinding and makes people dumb. If the Democrats win in 2020 say goodbye to music and hello sharia. Even now musims in the White House secretly give out U.S. secrets to their jihadi friends over in Islamo-land. But that's all fine. Our country will collapse and we'll all die-off or get slaughtered. Its all good. As long as our music is hateful and attacks Christianity then that justifies everything
Metal music has destroyed metal music.
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the females that like rap are responsible for a huge percentage of Nikki Minaj's income
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WWII vets = metal fans is so fucking hilarious because it's bullshit
it really should have been Vietnam vets = metal fans, and even that would have really just been the oldest fans of the oldest metal
anyone who likes hair metal would be way-the-fuck-younger than even Vietnam vets
most of the people who love Motley Crue were teenagers in the 80's
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i'm going to say "metal is not dead" really just based on the continuing existence of www.ultimatemetal.com
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Old WWII tanks and planes still exist. Civil War rifles and cannons still exist. There are people who like to collect old relics from those time periods.
I'm pretty certain that as soon as I click Post Reply another 80s metal fan will have died of natural causes. Young people look at us today just as we looked upon our elderly for listening to polka.
In my heart I know I'm metal
This is how the youth see us today.
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I'm just speaking the truth.
Look, the object of being a career musician is to be successful enough to retire on. I have seen the market for metal music today and there is no market at all for it. The lack of diversity in sound and style killed the metal market. I am not speaking as some anti-metal troll. Just stating the facts. What's even worse is I doubt the metal music Industry will be smart enough to find a working solution to the market problem -- and the market sales for metal music are absolutely horrible! This is because nearly all the youth that don't listen to country music listen to rap or both rap and techno.
Hey, I warned about this well over a decade ago. I tried to prevent the market collapse of metal music but the Industry wasn't smart enough to adapt. The major record labels dropped metal music long ago because alternative better suited their political agenda. This left record companies like Century Media and others like it to keep the metal market going. But the mistake was signing too many acts like HateBreed and the like. Somehow better acts were not getting the attention they deserved and now the extreme has gone as far as it can go and its dead.
Most metal fans prefer something more real than just the same hate sound album after album, band after band. On top of that, too many Satanic acts chased away most of the metal fan base. I'm only speaking the truth. I'm not anti-metal.
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