Keregioz
Kimon Zeliotis
Based on one of his interviews, nowadays he uses 9-46 and 64.
This is only on the last album though, before that it was always 10-52 and 70.
Jeff Loomis Rhythm Tone
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Based on one of his interviews, nowadays he uses 9-46 and 64.
This is only on the last album though, before that it was always 10-52 and 70.
JeffTD
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Not gonna get it with an AxeFX alone, sorry. Needs a tube poweramp and Recto cabinet to go with it for a Loomis tone.
Are you sure about that? Because I've heard Jeff get surprisingly close with a Line 6...
JeffTD
Senhor Testiculo
Are you sure about that? Because I've heard Jeff get surprisingly close with a Line 6...
Really? Where at? direct? Because that basically proves it's in his hands.
Indeed, DHIADW was with a Marshall cab - so I suppose you just need a real cab.
Roll your eyes all you want - you're the noob fanboi asking for advice on how to get a Loomis tone while making snide remarks about the tone not being in the fingers.
Find a tone that works for you - Loomis found his, now it's your turn.
ITT you act like you know what you're talking about.
See:
You're missing the whole point of my post anyway, because you're trying to be the condescending cool dood. You wear sun glasses at night. Maybe even a standard rap-industry chin strap.
Undeniably cool.
How does that prove the tone is in his hands? It would prove the tone was in his hands if he wasn't playing through any amp... the Line 6 still provides some sort of distorted output dur hur
And I can promise you that his percussive sound does not come from his fingers...TIME FOR ME TO GO OUT AND DISCOVER MY OWN TONE THE WORLD IS MY OYSTER
/snide remarks
/butthurts
EDIT:
I'm sorry, I'm being rash. Too much cocaine... or too little.
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Keregioz
Kimon Zeliotis
^^^ wow....amazing tone indeed!...captured in all its awesomeness from a shitty camera phone and youtube compression...
Btw, I don't doubt that in that clip he uses a pod, but how are you so sure? because there's no mention of it in the clip.
I would suggest you post a clip of your tone for people to be more helpful.
Btw, I don't doubt that in that clip he uses a pod, but how are you so sure? because there's no mention of it in the clip.
I would suggest you post a clip of your tone for people to be more helpful.
Morgan C
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ITT you act like you know what you're talking about.
See:
You're missing the whole point of my post anyway, because you're trying to be the condescending cool dood. You wear sun glasses at night. Maybe even a standard rap-industry chin strap.
Undeniably cool.
How does that prove the tone is in his hands? It would prove the tone was in his hands if he wasn't playing through any amp... the Line 6 still provides some sort of distorted output dur hur
TIME FOR ME TO GO OUT AND DISCOVER MY OWN TONE THE WORLD IS MY OYSTER
/snide remarks
/butthurts
EDIT:
I'm sorry, I'm being rash. Too much cocaine... or too little.
Since you're being an ass, I'll give an appropriate response. Obviously Loomis plugs in all his gear, hits record and he's like "Oh shit. What the fuck is this? I sound like Ambivalent! What the fuck is going on Andy Sneap?"
And Andy's like "Dude relaxxxx. I've got my fucking C4 here. Let me just put a 1.2db dip with a 4Q at 716Hz and.. try now?"
And Jeff's like BAZZHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWW BUOOOOOOOOOOOW CHUG CHUG CHUG BIDDILEEBIDDILEEBIDILEE
"Fuck yeah. Sounds like a fucking bass drum man."
And Andy's like "It's all in the C4, just make sure you take a laptop with you, running these exact settings, with you every single time you play, or people will be really confused."
Chryst Krispies
Vanilla Gorilla
Ambivalent = lawls.
Your left hand is "so refined" it's not even a factor?
Are you retarded dude? Seriously?
Quit beating off every 5 mins and maybe you can have a decent right hand.
Oh Yeah...
YOU'LL NEVER SOUND LIKE LOOMIS HA HAAA
PUNCH IN.
Your left hand is "so refined" it's not even a factor?
Are you retarded dude? Seriously?
Quit beating off every 5 mins and maybe you can have a decent right hand.
Oh Yeah...
YOU'LL NEVER SOUND LIKE LOOMIS HA HAAA
PUNCH IN.
kev
Im guybrush threepwood
I should probably chime in, as I spent an agonising amount of time getting jeff's tone using impulses. If you like what you hear I can see what I can recall from that particular project.
Stream here - The River Dragon has Come...
Im pretty sure I could get a bit closer now with some speaker movement.
Stream here - The River Dragon has Come...
Im pretty sure I could get a bit closer now with some speaker movement.
Harry Hughes
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Ambivalent = lawls.
Your left hand is "so refined" it's not even a factor?
Are you retarded dude? Seriously?
Quit beating off every 5 mins and maybe you can have a decent right hand.
Oh Yeah...
YOU'LL NEVER SOUND LIKE LOOMIS HA HAAA
PUNCH IN.
Pic is gold.
ahjteam
Anssi Tenhunen
If I would play the exact same setup; with exact same guitar, same amp, same cabinet and same settings on the same day and place; I would not sound like Loomis. And my guess is that you wouldn't either.
guitarguru777
Member
Ambivalent,
I know you from the Nevermore forum and I am not going to give you any shit over this, but the guys are right. Jeffs overall "sound" comes from the way he plays. You could literally go out and buy the exact same gear he used on the albums and still not get "THAT" sound because you don't play exactly like Jeff.
On that note the AxeFx is not going to get you there. 50% of the other half of Jeffs sound is the speaker movement. The AxeFx can get you close from an EQ / Signal chain stand point but its still not going to sound like him I am afraid.
You also quotes songs where the guitar and amp setup are radically different.
DHIADW was a Ractofier (rack mounted Mesa Recto) into a Marshall Cab
This Godless Endeavor was Krank & Ractofier w/ Mesa Cab
The New CD is 5150III w/ Mesa Cab
Solo CD was AxeFx and POD
So that being said its even more proof that the playing is the key to a guitarists tone. Jeff could literally play through a Peavey Classic 30 and still sound like Jeff.
The way he picks the types of strings, the picks he uses, where he mutes the strings, the amount of pressure applied when muting, where his fingers sit inside the fret. Are his hands oily? are they dry? where is the guitar is being played? humid environment? Dry environment? what guitar is it? Floyd rose? hard tail? mahogany? maple cap? how thick? EMGs? how far is the pup routed from the bridge? How much wood around the pup did they rout to fit it?
ALL of that is a factor in tone. Unless you can replicate 100% every nuance of ALL of that, you are not going to sound like Jeff.
Sorry man.
Honestly first thing I would do is dump the AxeFX and go with something that's going to get you the tone you want. While it does sound great, its not an amp with a cab and a mic, so its not going to get you what you want. Jeff still doesn't use it live cause it doesn't sound as good as his Savage 120, and that's right from his mouth to my ears.
I know you from the Nevermore forum and I am not going to give you any shit over this, but the guys are right. Jeffs overall "sound" comes from the way he plays. You could literally go out and buy the exact same gear he used on the albums and still not get "THAT" sound because you don't play exactly like Jeff.
On that note the AxeFx is not going to get you there. 50% of the other half of Jeffs sound is the speaker movement. The AxeFx can get you close from an EQ / Signal chain stand point but its still not going to sound like him I am afraid.
You also quotes songs where the guitar and amp setup are radically different.
DHIADW was a Ractofier (rack mounted Mesa Recto) into a Marshall Cab
This Godless Endeavor was Krank & Ractofier w/ Mesa Cab
The New CD is 5150III w/ Mesa Cab
Solo CD was AxeFx and POD
So that being said its even more proof that the playing is the key to a guitarists tone. Jeff could literally play through a Peavey Classic 30 and still sound like Jeff.
The way he picks the types of strings, the picks he uses, where he mutes the strings, the amount of pressure applied when muting, where his fingers sit inside the fret. Are his hands oily? are they dry? where is the guitar is being played? humid environment? Dry environment? what guitar is it? Floyd rose? hard tail? mahogany? maple cap? how thick? EMGs? how far is the pup routed from the bridge? How much wood around the pup did they rout to fit it?
ALL of that is a factor in tone. Unless you can replicate 100% every nuance of ALL of that, you are not going to sound like Jeff.
Sorry man.
Honestly first thing I would do is dump the AxeFX and go with something that's going to get you the tone you want. While it does sound great, its not an amp with a cab and a mic, so its not going to get you what you want. Jeff still doesn't use it live cause it doesn't sound as good as his Savage 120, and that's right from his mouth to my ears.
guitarguru777
Member
Definately all in the right hand.. I do pretty much the same thing.. its a mixture of pinching and a sort of percussive click.. Ive found its better with a thinner pick rather than a heavier one as its all about attack. Simple to do but harder to describe!
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Keregioz
Kimon Zeliotis
Nope...Like it was already said in this thread Loomis uses 2.0mm picks. Again...it's about technique.
Btw, I've never played an axefx but you can get relatively close to jeff loomis' tone with amp sims so I assume it should be possible with the axeFX too. Personally I get the best results with revalver3.
Keregioz
Kimon Zeliotis
I'm pretty sure I've seen Andy mention that DWIADW was dual recto.
Also, the new CD according to this was 5150.
About the Loomis' solo album...that's the first time I've heard that it's axefx and pod...you have a source on that? I find it kinda hard to believe. Seems to be a typo since you go on on your post about how it's not possible to have Loomis' tone with an axefx.
DanLights
Santa Hat Forever
se he said "it's not the fingers cause I know how he plays so it's not a factor, there's something about the EQ that give that percussive attack" or am I wrong? Dude it's mostly his playing, and as Anssi said the Bass guitar is also very important for that percussive factor in his rhythm tone, but of course you ditched that point and every other one expecting Andy to come in and say a Wide cut at 823 Hz will give you the answer.
Mattayus
Sir Groove-A-Lot
Yeah I don't think I could add anything that hasn't already been smashed to pieces but there's definitely a mix-up here between tone and feel. You could nail Jeff's tone in 5 minutes flat, but a player's feel is something you could never emulate/simulate/mimic. Also, I'm pretty convinced that the particular nuance within his playing that you are talking about is only about 35% guitar. The rest is just the rest of the band and the way it's been mixed.