Jeff Loomis Rhythm Tone

Keregioz said:
I'm pretty sure I've seen Andy mention that DWIADW was dual recto.
Also, the new CD according to this was 5150.

About the Loomis' solo album...that's the first time I've heard that it's axefx and pod...you have a source on that? I find it kinda hard to believe. Seems to be a typo since you go on on your post about how it's not possible to have Loomis' tone with an axefx.
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How about Jeff himself?

Good enough ya?

The 5150 was in fact a 5150III I believe not just an old 5150, and as far as I am aware of has been confirmed through a few conversations with various people on the board who have spoken to Andy directly. Some people here just as an FYI actually know certain other people :) (not said as a dick just so you are aware)

As for the "Dual Recto". It was Andys Dual Ractofier actually, re-read the thread about DHIADW. Andy confirmed this himself :)
 
Chryst Krispies said:
Ambivalent = lawls.

Your left hand is "so refined" it's not even a factor?

Are you retarded dude? Seriously?
Quit beating off every 5 mins and maybe you can have a decent right hand.
Oh Yeah...

YOU'LL NEVER SOUND LIKE LOOMIS HA HAAA
PUNCH IN.

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This is the best post I've seen here in months. :worship:
 
Keregioz said:
Yes, it would be, if I actually heard (or read) him say it.
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;)

Oh and here ya go :)

Ermz said:
First off, a big thanks to JeffTD for making this possible. He included just about all the information here to get us started - I'm merely the 'bookie'.

Nevermore - Dead Heart in a Dead World

Pickup: Emg 707

Boost: TS9

Amp: 4 tracks of Dual Racktifier

Cab: Marshall 1960 with t75

Mic: 2x sm57


Nevermore - This Godless Endeavor

Pickup: EMG 707

Boost: OD820

Amp: Krank Rev 1 and Mesa Boogie Dual Racktifier

Cab: Mesa Oversized 4x12

Mic: SM57
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guitarguru777 said:
;)

Oh and here ya go :)
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No, you were right about that, I didn't do my research right it seems.
I was talking about his solo album being AxeFX and POD. After a quick search I've found this.
Of course Jeff was saying the same (using ENGL) for the new Nevermore and it turned out to be 5150, but still I've seen no mention of axefx or pod.
 
Damn, guys, you pwned me hards.

My friends when they read your posts:

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But enough on silly black people.

You guys are completely misunderstanding what I'm saying, it might be out of honest overlooking, and it might be out of a constant stream of man juice flowing directly into your eyes.

I have the technique down, the right hand part. I can hear the fucking percussive sound that I'm searching for. It's just covered in muddy gloop. I'm asking how to make it clearer. I'm not asking how to copy Jeff Loomis's tone... I'm asking how to make that percussive click sound clearer. And don't say "dur hit harder" because I'm hitting the strings pretty god damn hard, I know this because I have a very muscular right arm due to me masturbating every 5 minutes.

So far this post:
Parka Dez said:
Thick strings, not huge amounts of gain. He uses a .70 for his lowest string.
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has been the most helpful, because dialing back the gain made the sound much clearer, but if I dial it back anymore it starts to lose its attack.

Now that basically is a paint-by-numbers way of me telling you guys what I'm trying to get help for. Now stop with the "dood you need a tube amps for that tone DUH HUH" and "FIND YOUR OWN TONE BRO DONT COPY LOOMIS FANBOY FAG," because that's not what I'm looking for.

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I can GUARANTEE that if you got some Jeff Loomis DI tracks and ran them through whatever shitty chain you use it would sound like you are talking about. You are MAJORLY overlooking the tone from the guitar and player and making an ass out of yourself in the process. If you sat down with Jeff Loomis and tried out gear together maybe you would finally get it. You will never get the exact sound of Jeffs guitar playing because you are not Jeff. It's that simple. There's no secret involved, its just him.
 
JeffTD said:
New album was a 6505, not a 5150III, FWIW.
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I heard from a pretty reliable source it was a III, not doubting you as Andy has not posted on the forum either way, but just saying.

Any way you look at it Ambivalent your technique is the issue. I bet you $1000 i could plug you into Jeffs setup and you would still get this "muddy thoomp" you are talking about. Keep working on your technique.

Now if you come back again and say its not the technique we are going to tell you to get a tube amp. Cause after all if its not the technique then its the amp, and if its not the amp then its the technique ..... there's no 2 ways about it.
 
Brandon E. said:
I can GUARANTEE that if you got some Jeff Loomis DI tracks and ran them through whatever shitty chain you use it would sound like you are talking about. You are MAJORLY overlooking the tone from the guitar and player and making an ass out of yourself in the process. If you sat down with Jeff Loomis and tried out gear together maybe you would finally get it. You will never get the exact sound of Jeffs guitar playing because you are not Jeff. It's that simple. There's no secret involved, its just him.
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Whoa, bro, sloooooooow down. You're so cool, you tried to do a compound insult on me by calling me an ass AND pointing out my "shitty chain." :rolleyes:

Read my post above, smart guy. You just addressed I point that I just said didn't need addressing. Read.

My face when I read this douche's post:

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Also, I'll take guru's advices (lulz pumping iron), but I have my doubts.
 
Ambivalent said:
Also, I'll take guru's advices (lulz pumping iron), but I have my doubts.
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Doubts are fine :) Thats what makes tone chasing fun. Just remember sometimes its the little tiny things that make the big difference. When I was about 20 i used to swear by DR strings HighBeams! cause Dime was the man in my book, but for some reason when I used them my playing wasnt as tight as I wanted it to be. I switched to D'addario 10's and all the articulation and edge came back to my playing. Something about the way my fingers work on the D'addario 10s just do it for me. I never considered strings to be so important before then.
 
Ambivalent, the people who are making fun of you are right to do so - there's more to responding to criticism than
ATTACK

SMARMY, PATRONIZING TOUGH-GUY RUBBISH

STUPID PHOTO THAT ANY SANE READER WOULD IMAGINE IS YOU AND NOT THE PEOPLE IT'S INTENDED TO 'BURN'

ILL-THOUGHT-OUT ATTEMPT AT REFUTATION

CONTINUED ABSENCE OF A CLUE
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and you should take much more care with people who *actually want to help and are miles ahead of you here*. It's not like the people here are too stupid to know that you play through an amp... it's that you're putting too much value on the wrong things and tweaking your playing (even with your perfectly refined left hand) is going to get you better results than 'cutting or boosting frequencies' - you're going to sound a lot more like jp22 than you probably want to, and get significantly less help as a result, if you don't quit being a twat.

Jeff
 
Is this guy fucking serious? All he can do is scoff at people that know what they are talking about and post stupid pictures and animated GIFs in response like some fucking child?
 
I'm starting to doubt that he's serious, but I should at least give him the benefit of the doubt until something like "no dood you can't add mids it'll kill the brootalz" pops up.

Jeff
 
I thought at first you were a total douche Ambivalent...

But the "advices" reference was actually funny haha.
You're decent in my book. I can't help you though.

Jbroll knows best.
 
... maybe the "mud" you're talking about is because of 1. Your settings. 2. Your impulses etc.
Jeff get's his tone from Engl heads and cabs, and with that tone he gets, I really don't think the AXE will cut it dude. The whole weird mids thing that goes on with the AXE/ digital i guess and the lack of warmth in the low mids is definitely not going to help when you're aiming for THAT kind of a tone.

Try playing another amp and see how you go :)
 
Here he is playing through a marshall at a clinic... still sounds like loomis
 
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