Who's "IA", Guthrie Govan?
IA is Ian Anderson..... what kind of Tafolla fan could you actually be if you didnt even know that..... geeze
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IA is Ian Anderson..... what kind of Tafolla fan could you actually be if you didnt even know that..... geeze
J-Dubya 777
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I'm sure that custom shop model is mondo expensive. Looks cool all relic'ed up though. I actually laid hands on that guitar at what was to be his last performance in Chicago...Hope to see you in Atlanta next year Flavio, you missed a helluva good time this year....
Who's "IA"
Guthrie Govan is IA's houseboy.....:Smokedev:
What the heck is the connection between Ian Anderson and Joey Tafolla?
Skin-flute?
IA is Mattias Eklundh. For those who can't pronounce either one, you can just call him Matthew....
What the heck is the connection between Ian Anderson and Joey Tafolla?
I can be a very sarcastic person, figured you would have caught that, sorry, had nothing to do with you, just my way of saying WTF.
It only makes sense that IA would stand for a person with the initials ME and we all should have know that, if not there is a decoder system available that can be ordered from malofstm.com
I'm sure that custom shop model is mondo expensive. Looks cool all relic'ed up though. I actually laid hands on that guitar at what was to be his last performance in Chicago...Hope to see you in Atlanta next year Flavio, you missed a helluva good time this year....
Guthrie Govan is IA's houseboy.....:Smokedev:
Skin-flute?
IA is Mattias Eklundh. For those who can't pronounce either one, you can just call him Matthew....
IA...Mattias Eklundh...oh yeah...that makes sense:Smug:...I'll just call him over-rated.:danceboy:
J-Dubya 777
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Overrated? I hardly think so...
(May the eggs of a thousand green & red tapeworms fill your colon with holiday glee!)
progmetaldan
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I have Tafolla's Infra Blue, its alright, but MJR writes better songs, and JP is technically more proficient overall and writes more memorable solos...
I have Tafolla's Infra Blue, its alright, but MJR writes better songs, and JP is technically more proficient overall and writes more memorable solos...
And GG stomps 'em all!
Actually I was looking into Eklundh and I see thats actually his nickname. We're just uninformed morons.... well I am anyhow..... lol
Flavio CotM
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All i can say thanks to J-Dub i got to meet, hang out, talk & drink with IA a really awesome person, very humble and funny, and his live set at Prog power last year was a real treat amazing licks IMO of course
progmetaldan
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Nah, Guthrie is good, but he's not THAT good, doesn't quite live up to all the HYPE, he just doesn't do anything for me imo...
Does anyone get the impression we're going around it circles here...
Does anyone get the impression we're going around it circles here...
He far exceeds any hype concerning his abilities but, again, personal taste will determine whether or not you dig his music.
J-Dubya 777
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You SO needed to be there this year, Flavio, especially when Vanden Plas got sent home (by US Customs), and the guys did about a 2 1/2 hour set. You're presence at PP was definately missed, bro! They are quite happy with the response they got both last year, & this year. There's also a Texas metal festival mention in one of his newer blogs. If it happens, you KNOW I am there... Also worth mentioning is the equal amount of coolness that Christer & Bjorn possess. We finally got to party hard with the Glimmer Twins, and we completed our mission of getting IA half drunk on his birthday, and then got to watch him play during the all star jam...
Completeing the circle,
I remain,
J-Dubya
No offense, but you guys are getting a wee bit full of yourselves with all the name dropping...not impressed...and someone being cool or humble doesn't make them more or less of a player. I could drop some names that would impress in certain musical circles...but that's not the point.
Meedles..."far exceeds"?...I'll need some proof of that, yet I agree with your personal taste comment. Tappity, tap, tapping...on your lap, behind your head, at the pub...it's tapping...come on...there are far better tappers. Even that Kiko guy everyone is hyped up over does some chord melody tapping that's more impressive. Jeff Healey plays the blues on his lap, but he's fucking blind...I find that a hell of a lot more impressive and his playing more expressive....nice rhyme.
As far as Guthrie...please quote the "hype". I only discovered him poking through youtube. I don't believe he's ever hit a major publication...I may be wrong.
Hey, wait...this is the Joey Tafolla thread...he's good too. Ha!
Meedles..."far exceeds"?...I'll need some proof of that, yet I agree with your personal taste comment. Tappity, tap, tapping...on your lap, behind your head, at the pub...it's tapping...come on...there are far better tappers. Even that Kiko guy everyone is hyped up over does some chord melody tapping that's more impressive. Jeff Healey plays the blues on his lap, but he's fucking blind...I find that a hell of a lot more impressive and his playing more expressive....nice rhyme.
As far as Guthrie...please quote the "hype". I only discovered him poking through youtube. I don't believe he's ever hit a major publication...I may be wrong.
Hey, wait...this is the Joey Tafolla thread...he's good too. Ha!
progmetaldan
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In case you didn't realise I was deliberately reusing words used in the Govan thread, seeing as that we were all going over the same arguments as well...
In case you didn't realise I was deliberately reusing words used in the Govan thread, seeing as that we were all going over the same arguments as well...
You're right prog...and we're stealing Joey Tafolla's glory...he probably hasn't had a thread since 1990.
I'd heard about him A LOT through various internet forums and from a few friends/acquaintences. It was weird because I'd go other places (like here) and people wouldn't have even heard the name, then I'd go to the Petrucci forum and see three threads about him just on the first page. I'd been hearing some hardcore Guthrie worship for a good 6 months or so before I actually checked him out and he blew any expectations I had way out of the water.
Kiko- Good metal player, I wasn't too impressed with that latin/fusion cd he did. The tapping stuff (the only one I know of that's along the lines of what you're referring to is Dark Tranquility) is cool, but bland to my ears. There are a lot of people who do that kind of thing way better than Kiko. Enver Izmaylov comes to mind. Either way, there's not really a parallel to be drawn between that kind of playing and the kind of tapping Guthrie does. With Guthrie, the right hand is just acting as more of an extension of the left than anything else. It's simply a means of getting out what he wants to say, as opposed to most guys when they do excessive tapping where what they are trying to say is "hey, look at my tapping licks kthxbye". Guthrie's tapping isn't even really a selling point to me honestly...it's what he creates musically. I don't care what a guy has in his/her bag of technical maneuvers so much so long as it sounds good by the time it reaches my ears. Back to Kiko, I don't really want to play the "this guy vs. that guy" game, but as long as both he and Guthrie are the topic at hand...when I listen to Kiko, 95% of the time I feel like I'm listening to a guy who spend a lot of time shedding his licks. I feel like I'm listening to a guy who's thinking "okay, I want to play a 16th note phrase here...1-e-and-uh 2-e-and-uh....." With Guthrie, I don't even feel compelled to think about any of that kind of stuff. I just hear a guy with an uncanny "flow" to his playing. He's having a well-articulated conversation with his guitar. Sure, Guthrie does have more impressive chops, but if that's all I cared about then I'd be torching a lot of my CD's right now.
Jeff Healy- YOu might as well have compared Guthrie to Kerry King or something. Good for him for coping with a disability and all but in the end that means jack shit to me. I make a point to not look at my hands much when I perform because I think looks tacky and unprofessional in many cases, but I don't think that puts me in any exalted position. The fact that he's blind might affect him, but it certainly doesn't affect me. The whole playing-on-the-lap thing is interesting, but that's just how he naturally developed his playing. It's no more impressive to me than people who play left handed: that's how they've always done it, it's nothing special nor is it anything that any of us couldn't have done if we had played that way from day 1. Nevertheless, Jeff is another person I listen to without thinking any thoughts about chops, technique, etc. There's a lot more to him than "that blind guy who plays on his lap"...he's got a good feel about him and plays what he means. I'm not much of a fan and I don't own any CD's nor do I plan on owning any in the nar future, but I do think he's a good player.
Kiko- Good metal player, I wasn't too impressed with that latin/fusion cd he did. The tapping stuff (the only one I know of that's along the lines of what you're referring to is Dark Tranquility) is cool, but bland to my ears. There are a lot of people who do that kind of thing way better than Kiko. Enver Izmaylov comes to mind. Either way, there's not really a parallel to be drawn between that kind of playing and the kind of tapping Guthrie does. With Guthrie, the right hand is just acting as more of an extension of the left than anything else. It's simply a means of getting out what he wants to say, as opposed to most guys when they do excessive tapping where what they are trying to say is "hey, look at my tapping licks kthxbye". Guthrie's tapping isn't even really a selling point to me honestly...it's what he creates musically. I don't care what a guy has in his/her bag of technical maneuvers so much so long as it sounds good by the time it reaches my ears. Back to Kiko, I don't really want to play the "this guy vs. that guy" game, but as long as both he and Guthrie are the topic at hand...when I listen to Kiko, 95% of the time I feel like I'm listening to a guy who spend a lot of time shedding his licks. I feel like I'm listening to a guy who's thinking "okay, I want to play a 16th note phrase here...1-e-and-uh 2-e-and-uh....." With Guthrie, I don't even feel compelled to think about any of that kind of stuff. I just hear a guy with an uncanny "flow" to his playing. He's having a well-articulated conversation with his guitar. Sure, Guthrie does have more impressive chops, but if that's all I cared about then I'd be torching a lot of my CD's right now.
Jeff Healy- YOu might as well have compared Guthrie to Kerry King or something. Good for him for coping with a disability and all but in the end that means jack shit to me. I make a point to not look at my hands much when I perform because I think looks tacky and unprofessional in many cases, but I don't think that puts me in any exalted position. The fact that he's blind might affect him, but it certainly doesn't affect me. The whole playing-on-the-lap thing is interesting, but that's just how he naturally developed his playing. It's no more impressive to me than people who play left handed: that's how they've always done it, it's nothing special nor is it anything that any of us couldn't have done if we had played that way from day 1. Nevertheless, Jeff is another person I listen to without thinking any thoughts about chops, technique, etc. There's a lot more to him than "that blind guy who plays on his lap"...he's got a good feel about him and plays what he means. I'm not much of a fan and I don't own any CD's nor do I plan on owning any in the nar future, but I do think he's a good player.
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