Kamelot/Halcyon Way/EbS Rollcall!

Bottom line....sound sucked. I didn't realize that the sound guy was a stand-in at the Masq, I thought that guy was the one on tour with Kamelot.



Yeah that's why a lot of my statements aren't echoed at the venue itself, and I'll be damned if Im gonna sit there and blame Kamelot. Not their fault.

The Keyboardist was nice and ended up talking to us while we were standing around and shed some light on why their sound check was taking so long (that being the amateurs setting everything up).

The Bassist was more than nice at the end of the night to our whole band--not to mention his wireless was screwing up during sound check so we let him use one of ours for the show. :)

I even saw Thomas Youngblood standing at the side of the stage watching a decent bit of our show, when I happened to look over that way. That was extremely nice and considerate of him to take the time and show interest in the local support. Granted, I have no idea if he liked what he saw or if he could even clearly hear what was goin on in our set. :lol:
 
I can imagine wireless unit issues at the Masq. You might have to deal with band's playing below you on one or two different stages that could be using the same frequency.
 
Yeah that's why a lot of my statements aren't echoed at the venue itself, and I'll be damned if Im gonna sit there and blame Kamelot. Not their fault.

The Keyboardist was nice and ended up talking to us while we were standing around and shed some light on why their sound check was taking so long (that being the amateurs setting everything up).

The Bassist was more than nice at the end of the night to our whole band--not to mention his wireless was screwing up during sound check so we let him use one of ours for the show. :)

I even saw Thomas Youngblood standing at the side of the stage watching a decent bit of our show, when I happened to look over that way. That was extremely nice and considerate of him to take the time and show interest in the local support. Granted, I have no idea if he liked what he saw or if he could even clearly hear what was goin on in our set. :lol:

That's good to hear, because we didn't see any of that and felt really slighted. So I was out of line in some of my thinking. But like I say, it's all good.
 
You (a local support band) get the chance to open up for them in Atlanta (and as far as I know, without paying tour support for using their stage and their crew - I might be mistaken about that, but you didn't mention that you paid for that) and should be thrilled about that. They set up their sound (spend hours on making sure it's perfect) and they of course do not want anyone changing the settings for that. Once they are done, you can get whatever is left. Apparently 5 channels.
We did not use their stage, there was a line of tape that we were not aloud to cross fearing death.
Also we did not use there crew, the masquerade guys were our crew. (Actually their bassist used our wireless system)
And I think that this is all based on the assumption that they may not be dicks... (which as far as I could tell they were really cool guys)

Also the masquerade does entire shows that sound check before hand (each one for about an hour) and it works out fine.
The bottom line is that Greg (the normal guy for national shows) was not there, And the guy that was there did not know what he was doing. He was not even the second in line (who did the firewind show), I think he was the "oh shit we have a show tonight" guy...

That is the bottom line.:Smug:
 
The Masquerade, like any venue, has its flaws, but where else are you going to go? What other venue in Atlanta would host Kamelot? Dark Tranquillity? Amorphis? Just be glad there's a place to to go to see these bands.
 
Seriously....whoever said they should tear the Masq down, I disagree totally

Sure....sometimes the sound sucks and some of the staff are assholes (especially the bald dude, God I can't stand him, plus when they divide the line, that pissed me off at another show) but the atmosphere of the Masq >>>>>>> Center Stage and the Tabernacle

It just has that certain vibe...the floor moves, the crowd is close to the stage and close together, it's small and hot, and it's just awesome. I can't explain it but the most fun shows I've been to have been there.

And if anyone says that's the worst venue, you couldn't be more wrong.

Try going to the Muse in Tennessee....it's way worse. Sometimes situations suck but saying we should boycott the entire venue for one night of problems is ridiculous. We are lucky we have 3 (and many more smaller) venues to host metal shows. Some states have crappy venues everywhere and bands never stop there because there are no venues.
 
Try going to the Muse in Tennessee...

Never Again...The Muse makes the Masquerade look like the best venue on the face of the planet...wait no...The Muse makes EVERY venue look like the best venue on the face of the planet--even Swayze's in Kennesaw.


Thats why I said the Masquerade is normally a great venue 95% of the time, when the conditions are right and a certain crew is working that was unfortunately absent the other night.
 
Never Again...The Muse makes the Masquerade look like the best venue on the face of the planet...wait no...The Muse makes EVERY venue look like the best venue on the face of the planet--even Swayze's in Kennesaw.


Thats why I said the Masquerade is normally a great venue 95% of the time, when the conditions are right and a certain crew is working that was unfortunately absent the other night.

Seriously...I saw Belphegor and Immolation there and I could barely hear Belphegor....the singer said "turn it up" (the lead vocals) and the sound guy looks at him and said "that's as loud as it goes" :lol:

So he had to go back there and do the sound himself....it was pathetic. And the venue is HALF the size of Swayze's literally if you can imagine that.

I dread when I have to move to Tennessee in a few years. I'm gonna be making a lot of road trips down here so I don't have to see bands at that horrible venue. lol
 
First time I heard you guys aside from last progpower sampler. You guys have a lot of talent. Songs were original, you have your own style. Yet they are quite easy to absorb. Hard to find combination these days. Awesome (maybe minus costumes :goggly:).

On the other hand , I hope the sound quality of the actual album does not sound like the track on progpower sampler. That would not do justice for that material.

You can hear some high quality samples on the album's pre-order page at Nightmare Records.

--Mike
 
A few years ago there were rumors about that. That the owner was planning on selling the land to some developers, but then opening other clubs in other areas. Those rumors circulated for a good while, but I haven't heard anything about it in two years or so.

They were all set to close the venue and open a new venue slightly outside the perimeter, when the deal fell apart...apparently some preservationists decided the building was a bonafide example of the remains of an excelsior mill (which it was, at one time). How they could determine that under the grime and detritus of over 20 years as a concert venue is beyond me.

Also, the ill-conceived Beltline project, to build some sort of trolley or light-rail along a loop in the city, would have run right next to the Masquerade. That project is on indefinite hold right now, so the land isn't worth as much as it might have been.

The Masquerade could be the only concert club in the nation that WANTS to close and relocate, but wasn't allowed to. (!)

Yes, actually, because my husband and I would have had a better shot at getting on the rail like we wanted. They moved everyone into Purgatory and the people in the back of the line outside didn't fit inside so they pretty much got in first. The whole point is that we arrived early and waited for hours to get a spot on the rail and the people who were at the back of the line ended up getting in first...needless to say we did not get our spots on the rail. Its not fair to those of us who waited and it was extremely poorly run line control.

Agreed. I'd have held the doors until they were ready upstairs. It's possible there was a miscommunication and they THOUGHT they were ready upstairs....

However, they did have the ceiling fans on--KimK and Urban staked out a spot by the sound board directly under one of them and it *was* noticably cooler there. Next time, I'm wearing shorts and a tank top even if it's February. :P But I mean, it *is* the Masquerade... there was nothing particularly unusual for them. People should be somewhat used to them by now, I'd think.

At one point the Masquerade turned the A/C on, at least in the back part of the club. It had been turned off from the get-go at the request of the headlining band's vocalist. This is not unusual; many singers request that the A/C be switched off.

It was good seeing everyone though! And at least we didn't get frisked for our cell phones. :P Sounded like the Tabernacle really got anal. I'm really glad I didn't go to that show--sounds like I would've gone ballistic.

It wasn't the Tabernacle that got anal; it was Glenn Danzig's requirement that no cellphones were allowed. Did I mention he was an asshole? I did? Hey presto, he's still an asshole today!

The other solution is to hire your own soundguy, have (or the soundguy have) a digital live console, with IEMs, your own MICs, etc. Then you could have had everything going into a few channels on the main board that were allowed to be PA'd. Though, that's probably excessive for many bands because you'd almost never need this.

After a truly awful-sounding show at the Roxy, Porcupine Tree did exactly that: they played the Masquerade instead (!), BUT....they brought their own mixing console with them as well as their own house sound-guy. Gotta say, that was one of the sweetest-sounding shows I've ever heard at the Masquerade.

Seriously....whoever said they should tear the Masq down, I disagree totally

Sure....sometimes the sound sucks and some of the staff are assholes (especially the bald dude, God I can't stand him,

He's actually cooler than you think, but he definitely has his 'working mode.'

I think Shaye, Urban, Kim, Ripper and I saw much more of that guy than we needed, after the show. :lol: :lol:

plus when they divide the line, that pissed me off at another show) but the atmosphere of the Masq >>>>>>> Center Stage and the Tabernacle

It just has that certain vibe...the floor moves, the crowd is close to the stage and close together, it's small and hot, and it's just awesome. I can't explain it but the most fun shows I've been to have been there.

I've seen so many memorable shows at the Masquerade and have so many great memories of the place that I couldn't begin to count them all. It is Atlanta's longest-running privately-owned concert venue. Sure, it's a dive, but if it weren't there, half of the small-to-medium hall tours coming through the Southeast wouldn't stop here.

Never Again...The Muse makes the Masquerade look like the best venue on the face of the planet...wait no...The Muse makes EVERY venue look like the best venue on the face of the planet--even Swayze's in Kennesaw.

Wow!


Just.................wow.
 
Never Again...The Muse makes the Masquerade look like the best venue on the face of the planet...wait no...The Muse makes EVERY venue look like the best venue on the face of the planet--even Swayze's in Kennesaw.


Thats why I said the Masquerade is normally a great venue 95% of the time, when the conditions are right and a certain crew is working that was unfortunately absent the other night.

Okay, Okay! I get it y'all maybe I'm wrong about certain things about it! Oh & Patrick, I'm sure y'all have all had very few problems in playing there, mainly since, you've played there w/ several excellent national & international bands!


I'm just sorry I started ranting like Peter Grifiin in "What Grinds My Gears" lol
And got on my proverbial soapbox!
Y'all all (including my gf shari! Thanks baby! ;) <3) made me think about things & mainly the fact that we in Atlanta, Ga. DON'T HAVE that many good Metal venues & should just be thankful & incredibly grateful for what we do have!!!!!!!:kickass: Cheers To You All!!!:kickass:
 
Okay, I'll bite. Pellaz, why do you think that Danzig is an asshole?
i know you are asking this of Pellaz, but i want to opine as well - Glen suffers from a Napoleon Complex. small man, big ego, bigger attitude...and makes an art of misogyny - especially when confronted by women who are a head taller than he is ;)

but that's just me
xo
 
It's to bad they spent hours on the sound check and getting the sound right! I thought the sound Kamelot had sucked through there whole set. I could hardly hear Khan at all from any position in the Masquarde! Even with my earplugs out, I had a hard time hearing him.

Also, I think the opening bands made it clear that they were happy to play in front of the Kamelot crowd, which was displayed on stage by what they said and how they played their asses off!

Further, there is no way in hell anyone should be treated like the way they were treated. Maybe Kamelot needed the extra time, but I think their crew should have voiced better what was going on.

Well, put, Ann, on everything said.....

And even though I enjoyed the show, you're right: you could hardly hear Kahn at all from any position. A little ironic, isn't it, after giving HW and EBS so much shit...
 
And yet you still pulled it off. A lot of bands would have just bitched about the situation and made excuses, instead of making the best out of what you had to work with. That's the mark of a great band. Sean's illness, the PA situation, only five mics, not being able to hear anything through the monitors, no intro, nothing being piped in, and the lack of cooperation from the venue, but you still put on a great show. All I can say is....wow.


Hail, Sean!!! My sentiments exactly!
 
Tell us how you really feel. :cool: Actually, this is exactly how I felt about L'amores in Brooklyn. Thankfully it did close, but it's reopened before and they've yet to tear it down, soooo...:err: I've been to the Masquerade, and believe it or not, L'amores was worse!

Anyway, I'm reluctant to start a new topic, but I'm wondering who is going to the Edguy/Kamelot show at B.B. Kings in NYC? Dave, Michelle and I will be there! :rock:


That's funny, Ambr, because I'd take L'amore over the Masquerade any day! 20 years of enduring 120 degree heat every time you go to a show there, is getting exhausting, to say the least! When we went to L'Amore, though, it was in the winter time and we actually really liked the venue.
 
Okay, I'll bite. Pellaz, why do you think that Danzig is an asshole?

1. Numerous reports from people on the road who have worked with him over the years (and this recent tour)....including one not-to-be-named member of Dimmu Borgir who agrees.

2. His behavior at Dragon*Con a few years ago when he was a guest (for his Verotik comic). I saw some really churlish behavior from Danzig myself, and heard about much worse. :rolleyes:
 
That's funny, Ambr, because I'd take L'amore over the Masquerade any day! 20 years of enduring 120 degree heat every time you go to a show there, is getting exhausting, to say the least! When we went to L'Amore, though, it was in the winter time and we actually really liked the venue.
Ok, maybe you have more experiences than me and can be a better judge. I've only been to L'Amores four times and the Masq. once. I saw one good show at L'Amores, which was Vanden Plas and that's 'cause it was a third empty. The other shows I saw were overbooked, the worse being Nightwish. I drove directly from the airport after ProgPower IV to see the show, so I was pretty tired too. But, they had to have oversold the show by 200. No lie. You couldn't move in there at all and it was unbearably hot. Never got a drink of any kind and when I finally found the restroom, it was horrible! Two stalls (in ladies' room) for that may people? It also was very run down, imo. The floors outside the main standing room area were a hazard. Anyway, I expect you have a more educated opinion. :)


BTW, is anyone going to the Edguy/Kamelot show tonight at B.B. Kings in NYC?