lets be realistic, pt hd 3 rig

I must ask you Joey, why jump to new Nuendo when its a film post pro based program? Just curious.

because it runs really efficiently

you have to think
my daw progression has been this...

cubase sx 3
nuendo 3
cubase 5
pro tools 8

now i have logic pro and cubase 5 and pro tools 8

if you look at my previous daw's, you'll see that i wasn't ever very up to date. this is why i want to move to nuendo 5, because the flexibility of 32 / 64 bit, the advantages of "on the fly" routing, and new automation systems

going pt seems like a step backwards in terms of progression to me. i think there's a lot of people who try cubase with a shitty interface / driver, which causes them to think that the program its self sucks... but in fact its just the inability to get a good latency at low block sizes

since you have the option to choose your own interface with steinberg, you need to spend some money to have a good one in order to see any performance.

considering i am in the box, i needs lots of native horsepower. so having the tdm architecture there to back me up doesnt really help me in anyway. since most of the plugins that benefit me the most (kontakt, ozone, pod farm, drumagog) are all RTAS only, i don't get much use out of the TDM architecture and therefore not much advantage to owning pro tools in my specific case. Add that crutch on top of the fact that i had to learn how to use it, and the fact that some of the editing is SLOW TOOLS (can't fade or trim multiple regions in same track) and you'll get a combination that ends unproductively. on top of all of THESE, add crashing.

thats frustrating, and for me, not worth it.
 
I bet joey, that as soon as you return it and get the other system sorted, tools will get updated fixing most of those problems, and you'll be like....
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
;)
 
im just upset that with PT 8, the whole selling point from digi was that the program was supposedly total revamped. Unfortunately, it was obvious after a bunch of crashes that they put a nicer UI on a bunch of old legacy code and called it the messiah. In most cases if you need to use pro tools, I would say its a safer bet to stay in PT 7 because many of the bugs have been dealt with. As far as I know, many huge studios havent even considered switching to 8 until its deemed safe. reminds me of vista.
 
im just upset that with PT 8, the whole selling point from digi was that the program was supposedly total revamped. Unfortunately, it was obvious after a bunch of crashes that they put a nicer UI on a bunch of old legacy code and called it the messiah. In most cases if you need to use pro tools, I would say its a safer bet to stay in PT 7 because many of the bugs have been dealt with. As far as I know, many huge studios havent even considered switching to 8 until its deemed safe. reminds me of vista.

I've stayed with pt7 for quite a while, and I can't remember any big crashes that ruined a session on my quad-core pc and 2 gigs of ram. However, i've been using reaper (ever since adams slip editing tutorial) for all my major drum editing.
 
because it runs really efficiently

you have to think
my daw progression has been this...

cubase sx 3
nuendo 3
cubase 5
pro tools 8

now i have logic pro and cubase 5 and pro tools 8

if you look at my previous daw's, you'll see that i wasn't ever very up to date. this is why i want to move to nuendo 5, because the flexibility of 32 / 64 bit, the advantages of "on the fly" routing, and new automation systems

going pt seems like a step backwards in terms of progression to me. i think there's a lot of people who try cubase with a shitty interface / driver, which causes them to think that the program its self sucks... but in fact its just the inability to get a good latency at low block sizes

since you have the option to choose your own interface with steinberg, you need to spend some money to have a good one in order to see any performance.

considering i am in the box, i needs lots of native horsepower. so having the tdm architecture there to back me up doesnt really help me in anyway. since most of the plugins that benefit me the most (kontakt, ozone, pod farm, drumagog) are all RTAS only, i don't get much use out of the TDM architecture and therefore not much advantage to owning pro tools in my specific case. Add that crutch on top of the fact that i had to learn how to use it, and the fact that some of the editing is SLOW TOOLS (can't fade or trim multiple regions in same track) and you'll get a combination that ends unproductively. on top of all of THESE, add crashing.

thats frustrating, and for me, not worth it.

This is actually similiar problem to guitarists who have played for ages (make that +10 years) in standard tuning, switching to lower string dropped tuning and/or to 7 guitars. The complain that it sucks and is really hard to learn for like ages eventho they are masters on the standard tuning. More extreme example is when people get their hand or fingers cut off in an accident and they have to turn into lefties. DAMN, that is some seriously hard shit to learn, you can try it just by flipping the guitar upside down how weird it feels.

For example I didn't have almost any problems with learning protools, took me less than a month to get familiar with it, except I still hate the fact (note: been using only 7.x) that you can't overlap regions like in Cubase.
 
Dude - this might sound obvious, but why not just ebay it? So many morons on ebay pay more than rack rate for things. I can't imagine PT systems are any different. Yeah - the fees are rough, but if you got such a steep discount when you originally purchased the stuff, I can't imagine you'll lose much cash. Just a thought.

Bobby
 
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Selling the 192 I/o (upgraded) and hd3 (accel) with input output db25 sub cables for $9500

This retails for like... $16000.00

I'm selling cheap because I got it cheap through a bunch of special sale loopholes. Nothing wrong with any ofnthe gear, I just don't like protools and I'm looking to go back to native happy land.
 
Sorry dude - I just checked previous sales on ebay. You're not gonna get anywhere near $9500 over there...
 
best luck with selling it!!!

The good thing is, with cubase 5 or logic 9 you can bounce every single track in a project with one mouse click.
In logic 9 you can also choose if you want to bounce the single tracks with panning, plugins, aux....or not.
I think you can do this with protools too.

This is IMO the easiest way to send some one a project.
I never would want to get a project, were someone made a strange routing or stuff like that...
 
It seems to be gettng harder and harder/more buggy getting sessions cross format. Consolidating and exporting/importing single tracks has been easiest for me.