Like Pantera

Down are a great band who are talented and write great music/songs. I also think it's stupid to pick out lyrics you think are 'stupid' when you clearly have not red/heard majority of the lyrics because Phil actually does have some great lyrics and strong points regardless having lyrics people might feel are stupid. Pepper Keenan from Corrosion of Conformity is also a great guitarist and Kirk Windstein by no means is slacking in the guitar playing department either.

I personally think growling about mummies and egypt on 5,6 albums is stupid. I think more people can relate to things phil says than fucking mummies!
 
Pantera were a lethal force that dominated little pansy bands from the
90's. I have great memories of the Pantera days, very brutal pits, and screaming guitar tones that screamed fuck.

Yea not at all. Calling the 90's pussy is about as ignorant as anything can get. Darkthrone would rape your shit and so would anyother European bands. And in American the various death metal scenes had more balls then metal had ever seen and will ever see.
 
For one thing, they suck.
Also, stupid lyrics: "New Orleans is a dying whore"

Stupid and angry, racist, morons. 2/3rds of the way there.

I listen to plenty of racist bands. I'd like to see you call Rob Darken a stupid racist moron to his face.
 
such a bullshit phrase...they invented post-thrash. They were playing thrash metal...but they were experiment. Then everyone was like, "Post-thrash!" And Pantera was like "You talking to me? No way, punk! Walk on home, boy!" And everyone was all like "RE!...SPECT!...WALK!..." And then they were all like, "WTF does that mean anyhow?" And Phil Anselmo was all like "FUCK THE WORLD! FOR ALL IT'S WORTH! EVERY INCH! OF PLANET EARTH!" and SouthernTrendkill was like "OMG it's poetry!"
So basically, my point is...the difference between thrash and post-thrash is Pantera. And if that doesn't make sense, fuck off.
 
I wouldn't call Cowboys thrash, maybe one or two songs on there could be thrash, three or four at most. But a lot of it is pretty definitive "heavy metal" like in the vein of Judas Priest and Iron Maiden.

I hate the hatred for Pantera on this board. Frankly I think they're the best band ever. Phil's lyrics kick the shit out of everything else. Dime's solos bore me, but I'ven never heard anyone make riffs half as awesome as Pantera, let alone for a band that plays verse-chorus.

As for racist bands... pffft. Pantera isn't 1/10th as racist as Burzum or Darkthrone. Being a racist doesn't stop you from making better music than all the tolerant folks.
 
I wouldn't call Cowboys thrash, maybe one or two songs on there could be thrash, three or four at most. But a lot of it is pretty definitive "heavy metal" like in the vein of Judas Priest and Iron Maiden.

I hate the hatred for Pantera on this board. Frankly I think they're the best band ever. Phil's lyrics kick the shit out of everything else. Dime's solos bore me, but I'ven never heard anyone make riffs half as awesome as Pantera, let alone for a band that plays verse-chorus.

As for racist bands... pffft. Pantera isn't 1/10th as racist as Burzum or Darkthrone. Being a racist doesn't stop you from making better music than all the tolerant folks.

I don't think anyone accused Pantera of racism...we was talking about Hatebreed.
Phil's lyrics are frequently ridiculous ("Walk on home, boy")
But sometimes pretty good. I generally just don't like Far Beyond Driven, which happens to be a repository of ridiculous lines such as "I fucked your girlfriend last night"
I also resent the hatred for them. Some of Dimebag's solos are cool, some suck. People tend to either love Pantera or hate them...I just like them.
Badass riffing, not gonna lie to you. Also, I thought it was pretty cool that they could make the word "love" into a something angry. Sometimes the vocals and lyrics are excellent.
Phil goes fucking ridiculously high on Shattered. I was impressed.
Cowboys...
Lesse, CfH itself is definitely thrash. Primal Concrete Sledge...pretty thrashy...Psycho Holiday, pretty thrash. Heresy is definitely thrash. Cemetery Gates is a ballad, so it doesn't count...Domination is definitely thrash. Shattered isn't very thrash. Clash With Reality is definitely thrash. The Sleep isn't very thrash. Medicine Man, Message in Blood, and The Art of Shredding are pretty thrashin'