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[Dead Winter]

keyboardist? really? i don't think i could ever be like that, the only one in a big band i've heard is a gigantic douche is the keyboardist for Beyond Twilight.

It's usually the classically trained, "I went to the conservatory and play Mozart with my feet" keyboardists...and it's fucking full of them around here.

In reality they're extremely gifted and talented, but more often than not they want to run the show and have frontman envy. Tons of great musicians in Italy...sadly, very few of them have anything to say that's not weedle weedle weedle.

We don't have a happy medium here; it's either Dream Theater-esque perfection/boredom/lack of songwriting ability or "I'm gonna play old Sepultura and Slayer riffs in every song I write, but the lyrics are different so I'm not ripping anyone off."

Oh yeah. And they still haven't heard that metalcore died 4 years ago.

 

[WhiteBeastofWotan]

keyboards in metal are usually gay anyway.

 

[neal]

keyboards in metal are usually gay anyway.

although sometimes quite awesome and enhancing, i must agree

 

[Dead Winter]

It depends on how it's done. All the weedle weedle weedle bullshit is just annoying to me...if I want to listen to a beautiful piece of piano, I'll listen to Chopin.

When synths are layered and the keyboards accent the album's parts like they should, that's when it's awesome. But it's so hard to keep talented keyboardists from wanking. I really, REALLY hate when keyboards take over guitar solos. UGH.

 

[El Stormo]

keyboards in metal are usually gay anyway.

Usually, yes. But definitely not always.

 

[WhiteBeastofWotan]

Of course.

 

[ShadowsWithin]

It's usually the classically trained, "I went to the conservatory and play Mozart with my feet" keyboardists...and it's fucking full of them around here.

In reality they're extremely gifted and talented, but more often than not they want to run the show and have frontman envy. Tons of great musicians in Italy...sadly, very few of them have anything to say that's not weedle weedle weedle.

We don't have a happy medium here; it's either Dream Theater-esque perfection/boredom/lack of songwriting ability or "I'm gonna play old Sepultura and Slayer riffs in every song I write, but the lyrics are different so I'm not ripping anyone off."

Oh yeah. And they still haven't heard that metalcore died 4 years ago.

yeah actually your right, the two big modern synth forums are Italian ran and theres a lot of DT worship going on. Most of the guys on the Italian forums are insane programmers and keyboardist but you can tell by the way they play that they were classically trained (which im sure is easy to get over there), and classical piano players are incredibly elitist.

the only place i can think of that have keyboardist that don't seem full of themselves is Finland, american keyboardist just like to drink and be on stage and play some strings parts over lame metalcore music (with Rudess, Pinnella, Guillory and Moore being the exception).

lol im not going to lie though, atmospheric keyboards are great and al but i do like keyboard solos quite a bit, especially when the tone is good like Matt Guillorys or Jens Johansson's.

 

[slashvanyoung]

Kevin Moore is the only keyboardist in metal that ever did anything for me... I absolutely can't stand either Dimmu-esque pompousness nor COB-like pointless wanking with Gameboy sounds and melodies that are as compositionally deep as Alexi Laiho's IQ is high.

 

[ShadowsWithin]

yeah Kevin Moore is one of my favorites, the only sounds i really like from Jordan are his lead sounds and the sound that he uses to follow the guitar parts his "pig bass lead" where as Kevin Moore always did interesting things and had great sounds, no one has been able to copy his Erotomania organ convincingly, not ever Rudess.

Janne Tolsa from Tarot is another one of the more interesting keyboardist as well.

 

[Det Som Engang Var]

Keyboards in black metal are awesome.

 

[WhiteBeastofWotan]

Depends, for a lot of bands really overdo it. Generally I hate "symphonic" black metal. Negura Bunget's "Om" is an example of the perfect use of keyboards on an album.

 

[Det Som Engang Var]

I forgot all about that symphonic black metal garbage. Yeah, I think we mean the same thing. Hammond Organs are my favorite though.

 

[Sentient 6]

a scrambled egg sandwich with Tillamook cheddar and avocado is delicious in the morning

 

[Malergion]

a scrambled egg sandwich with Tillamook cheddar and avocado is delicious in the morning

Strangely enough I have had one of those. I put a little chipotle on mine though.

 

[Chromatose]

I had some cranberry cheddar yesterday when I was roaming around Whole Foods stuffing my face full of cheese samples. I don't think I'd like it on a sandwich, but I could totally eat a block of it.

 

[Det Som Engang Var]

I had this sausage thing wrapped in a pancake in the form of a corndog.

 

[Malergion]

They sell strawberry brie at Belair/Raley's here. I like it.

 

[El Stormo]

Depends, for a lot of bands really overdo it.

Exactly. A good keyboard player should know when to be quiet, which is a virtue not many of them have.

 

[Dead Winter]

yeah actually your right, the two big modern synth forums are Italian ran and theres a lot of DT worship going on. Most of the guys on the Italian forums are insane programmers and keyboardist but you can tell by the way they play that they were classically trained (which im sure is easy to get over there), and classical piano players are incredibly elitist.

the only place i can think of that have keyboardist that don't seem full of themselves is Finland, american keyboardist just like to drink and be on stage and play some strings parts over lame metalcore music (with Rudess, Pinnella, Guillory and Moore being the exception).

lol im not going to lie though, atmospheric keyboards are great and al but i do like keyboard solos quite a bit, especially when the tone is good like Matt Guillorys or Jens Johansson's.

Italian keyboardists are almost all classically trained and go to or have been to the conservatories here in Italy, but in my opinion that's their problem. The conservatories here will make you perfect, like a machine...but they won't make you a great songwriter. They'll just turn you into Yngwie Malmsteen, and just like Malmsteen, you'll make boring music.

Guitarists, pianists, violinists...it's the same for everyone. Sure you'll be able to impress anyone on earth with your precision, but most of them can't even play a simple Irish reel. It's just years and years of scales.

The most impressive players I've ever seen have all been from Eastern Europe and Russia. They are just as perfect, yet they add so much style, flair, and attitude to their playing. It's no coincidence that the keyboards from Negura Bunget's "OM" are so tastefully done.

In Italy, all the keyboardists love all the same groups...it's like they're a carbon copy of each other. They all love Dream Theater, Children of Bodom, Dimmu Borgir, Nightwish, Europe, and Sonata Arctica. Usually just those bands, .

 

[Shpongled]

I had a pot pie the other day called the "breakfast pie". It was amazing. It had scrambled eggs, crispy pieces of bacon, sausage and baby red potatoes. Soooo so so so good. Also had a side of homemade mac and cheese with it. One of the best dinners I've had this Fall.