Males and Females

[damnromulans]

Okay, honest question here. I keep seeing things on the internet on how the "friendzone" idea is sexist, or promotes "rape culture" - because the implication is that a girl is "obligated" to fuck a guy if he is nice to her. It could just be because I'm a guy, but I've always seen this a different way - more accurately, that most girls don't care about being treated well. And I know that was the case with the girl I just broke up with.

People who have intact self-esteem and are not like 17 years old care about being treated well.

 

[Jimmy... Dead.]

Laura, no offense or anything, but I have never understood why you stand upon the altar of so many a GMD member, you kinda just look like a normal Japanese gal to me.

Because asian american girls do things in bed that most women don't understand. It's both inborn and environmental. Look it up, it's science.

 

[jakethedog]

Well obviously being nice to someone doesn't obligate shit in return. Connecting on a deep level and actually having an attraction is way more important than somebody who's nice. Sorry, nice guys. Quit your bitching and grow a personality.

Exactly how I feel. The thing is, unless it's entirely one-sided, I don't understand how it's sexist - I've been interested in girls initially and later realized there was no real connection, or they did things that irritated me, or couldn't talk about things that required the tiniest bit of intelligence. And I'm sure I'm not the only guy who might be uninterested in a girl that has nothing to do with her looks.

Though I do think it could be sexist if the plan was just to "hump and dump" (and maybe I'm the exception to the rule, but I never assume things will end after one night) despite how the advent of birth control may have changed the western world's attitude toward sex, no one wants to be viewed as a sex object.

 

[The Ozzman]

HamburgerBoy is WINNING THIS THREAD, but gotta say I only agree with you on WAIF scoring above an 8/10. And that really beautiful, elf-like Swedish guy who drives freight trains. I can't remember his username but I remember the photos with great fondness. He's like a 25 on the Jimmy scale.

Didn't you say Grant and I were the hottest dudes on this forum? Are you just full of shit?

 

[Jimmy... Dead.]

YOU GAY! YOU GAY!

 

[Matt]

Didn't you say Grant and I were the hottest dudes on this forum? Are you just full of shit?

Why do you feel the need to comment about how attractive you think you are on a constant basis? Insecure much?

 

[Carpe Mortem]

Man yall are like a bunch of cheerleaders arguing about who's gonna make prom queen. If your looks suit your personality, you're hot. If they don't, you're not.

Jake I'm not sure I entirely understand what you're saying as relates to sexism, can you put it in layman's terms? Haha.

 

[Jimmy... Dead.]

Why do you feel the need to comment about how attractive you think you are on a constant basis? Insecure much?

HE GAY!

 

[romanticism]

If your looks suit your personality, you're hot. If they don't, you're not.

That would make people like Zeph/Butt/Yoda/etc pretty damn hot, so I can't say I agree.

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

There's a 7 year gap between my bf and I, he's 23, I'm nearly 30. There's times i notice it, some things he says and does can be a little immature, but most of the time it's not an issue, he's got a very mature work ethic too.
He like to call me grandma a lot and says I'm a dirty perv cougar though lol cheeky git!
Age as a whole shouldn't really factor into a relationship if both people are say over 18, can't see the prob if a 40yr old dates an 18yr old. If they find things in common and get on maturity wise then good for them I say after all, can't help who you fall for.

An 18-year-old with a 40-year-old violates the half-your-age-plus-seven rule. The lowest a 40-year-old can go is 27.

I just wouldn't want to waste my time with someone who I don't really have much of a future with. I'd eventually like to have a normal family, and I don't think I could do that with somebody 10+ years older than me, and I wouldn't want to waste that time where I can be courting somebody who I do have a possible future with. I mean, I'd have no problem dating somebody who's a few years older than me, but nobody who's twice my age or anything like that.

None of this would be for a while though. I'm still really young.

Well, I have a more uncharitable reason behind it. A woman may age like fine wine, but wine doesn't improve indefinitely with age, so I don't wanna stick around for that as long as I'm relatively young.

The friend zone is a real thing, but has come to mean something else to the rising generation, and that false preconception is what contributes to rape culture.

I'll expand on this later when I'm not in the middle of work.

I have a story that works as an allegory for the friend-zone. In my senior year of high school, a friend invited me to someone's graduation party - a friend of his, but more of an acquaintance to me - telling me there would be food. So I came to his house in lieu of dining out with my family. But the food that they had was pretty disappointing; basically, just lunch meats and some assorted snack stuff. It's not like this guy owed me shit, but I certainly regretting attending this thing instead of having a real meal at Puccini's.

I IM'd my friend later on saying that I thought there was gonna be real food, and he said "Yeah, me too, lol." So it's not like I was deliberately misinformed. But I had every right to feel disappointed, even if I wasn't owed free food. It was a decent party on its on merits, but not something I would've skipped out on dinner for.

 

[romanticism]

An 18-year-old with a 40-year-old violates the half-your-age-plus-seven rule. The lowest a 40-year-old can go is 27.

Shit...I didn't know about this rule...my case doesn't work

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

That would make people like Zeph/Butt/Yoda/etc pretty damn hot, so I can't say I agree.

Zeph and Yoda I get, but why Butt? I mean in the sense of having looks that suit ones personality, not the part about being hot.

 

[jakethedog]

Sure thing Carpe. It seems to be an idea among radical feminists that guys expecting "favors" from girls for treating them well, buying them things, etc, are sexist (and some say it promotes "rape culture", which I really don't understand.) But there's a difference between just wanting sex and wanting to date a girl.

I really have a problem with this, because there are girls who take advantage of guys who do things for them. But then again, any guys who go along with it just for the attention are just as pathetic.

Also... my ex-girlfriend is 18 and I'm 24. Half my age plus six. Shit, I missed.

 

[MasterpieceMesias]

So does the half one's age + 7 'rule' apply to hookups or just dating? Because if an older woman hit on me and she was attractive you bet your ass I'd go for it.

 

[dwellerINTHEdark]

^ that would be a dating rule. Hook-ups come in all shapes and sizes... as long as they're legal.

 

[Nephilim96]

So does the half one's age + 7 'rule' apply to hookups or just dating? Because if an older woman hit on me and she was attractive you bet your ass I'd go for it.

I think the "half your age + 7" only applies to the older person.

 

[Carpe Mortem]

That would make people like Zeph/Butt/Yoda/etc pretty damn hot, so I can't say I agree.

In a way, Zeph is pretty hot, from what I caught of him holding his enormous fucking cat. From what little I've seen of his personality - doesn't start shit, general peace keeper as a mod, doesn't seem to have problems with anyone - he's like a less pussified Toki Wartooth. I can imagine that dude wearing toe socks and being like YEAH motherfucker, I fuckin wear toe socks and love my cat, and I watch nature shows and cry sometimes, but I could bang your gf because I listen to her bitch about coworkers and she fuckin likes my toe socks too.

Idk what Butt or Yoda look like.

 

[CF87]

I'm HaWt.

 

[MasterOLightning]

Maybe this recent criticism is geared towards a different meaning, but I always thought the friendzone was more about a desire for romance than sex. It sucks because of the unrequited feelings, not the lack of sex. And I think it's sexist of women to assume guys are only interested in girls for the sex. Guys put in the effort to be friends because they like the girl and hope they'll eventually win her affections over time. If that affection never comes, that's disappointing. I'm not going to make excuses for those who turn around and call the girl a bitch and say mean things when it doesn't work out. That's a shitty thing to do. But I don't see anything wrong with a guy wanting to end the friendship if it's causing too much emotional distress.

 

[Zephyrus]

In a way, Zeph is pretty hot, from what I caught of him holding his enormous fucking cat. From what little I've seen of his personality - doesn't start shit, general peace keeper as a mod, doesn't seem to have problems with anyone - he's like a less pussified Toki Wartooth. I can imagine that dude wearing toe socks and being like YEAH motherfucker, I fuckin wear toe socks and love my cat, and I watch nature shows and cry sometimes, but I could bang your gf because I listen to her bitch about coworkers and she fuckin likes my toe socks too.

I've been wearing two pairs of socks at once recently. My feet are extra toasty and fit my loafers more snuggly.

That documentary on Netflix about snowy owls is where it's at.