Males and Females

[crimsonfloyd]

except i didn't grow up in the ghettoville gangsta thug culture
i was already out of highschool before i realized that there were so many males other than me that were disgusted by buns-of-steel on a chick, i just remember seeing all of the Peter Paul Reubens paintings when i was 5 or 6 and then the gap of time where you couldn't go a whole day without hearing the phrase "buns-of-steel" on TV, the radio, and every single magazine cover, i remember just thinking (even before my sex-drive kicked in) that the buns-of-steel thing just looks masculine

Yeah, well I don't know the details of your personal or cultural history so I can't say; however, bringing up Reubens and that entire zaftig aesthetic is good evidence that body type preference is not genetic but rather cultural. After all, men from that region of the world would probably prefer fitter, slimmer women today.

I think a lot of it has to do with what one perceives (predominately at a subconscious level) as "fit" and a good mate. In the past, having a little chub demonstrated that one had more than sufficient resources and therefore better probability of reproducing healthy children with a nutrition rich diet.

Today, at least in much of Europe and North America, calories are extremely easy to come by. You can be homeless and still be overweight just from eating leftover takeout out of trash cans. Therefore, many people prefer more athletic, fit bodies, since it demonstrates discipline and self-control, which are advantageous traits in our society.

 

[monoxide_child]

What's to be paranoid about? It's called "trust" and if you can't handle that, you can't handle an "adult" relationship - so pretty much most people can't handle that

if you can't trust a person, then you shouldn't be dating them

i'd even go as far as to say that if you absolutely know for sure that they really are cheating on you, then at that point, you're prolly guilty of invading their privacy

 

[monoxide_child]

Yeah, well I don't know the details of your personal or cultural history so I can't say; however, bringing up Reubens and that entire zaftig aesthetic is good evidence that body type preference is not genetic but rather cultural. After all, men from that region of the world would probably prefer fitter, slimmer women today.

I think a lot of it has to do with what one perceives (predominately at a subconscious level) as "fit" and a good mate. In the past, having a little chub demonstrated that one had more than sufficient resources and therefore better probability of reproducing healthy children with a nutrition rich diet.

Today, at least in much of Europe and North America, calories are extremely easy to come by. You can be homeless and still be overweight just from eating leftover takeout out of trash cans. Therefore, many people prefer more athletic, fit bodies, since it demonstrates discipline and self-control, which are advantageous traits in our society.

my medical doctor friends tell me that a female having 6-pack-abs or buns-of-steel is not medically normal, and that this is the explanation of why it's so extremely difficult for a female to acquire/maintain the toned abs/toned ass
i really do understand the concept of "discipline and self control", but med doctors are telling me that having 6-pack-abs/buns-of-steel can actually damage a female's reproductive system
basically, they're saying that if you're starting off clinically morbidly obese, and then you start loosing weight and you loose most of the weight really rapidly and then you'll hit a wall where "you just can't loose that last 10 pounds" and that this is because this "last 10 pounds" is actually supposed to be there
if a female is between puberty and menopause she should have a "cushion layer" of fat wrapped around the uterus to protect the potential fetus
again, i feel the need to point out the difference between
http://www.google.com/search?num=10...0.0.276.809.1j2j2.5.0...0.0...1ac.PN7I5oEx-_A and
http://www.google.com/search?num=10...pw.r_qf.&fp=bad6327fce22bf7f&biw=1366&bih=667

the whooty girls are sexy, the SSBBW girls are nasty

also
my aversion to to the 6-pack-abs/buns-of-steel on females is not really a healthy/unhealthy thing
it's a masculine/feminine thing
to me the 6-pack-abs/buns-of-steel always just looks masculine to me, i don't like girls with 6-pack abs/buns-of-steel because i'm not gay

 

[monoxide_child]

i just thought that maybe there's some kind of genetic difference reason of why some guys like solid-toned women, and other guys like soft-pillowy women

Blackmetalwhiteguy would know about this, but he's just not posting on this thread

 

[SentinelSlain]

die

 

[arg]

Anne Vyalitsyna, ex-gf of the Maroon 5 singer. all i can say is, what an idiot. if i had a woman like this, i'd do everything she asks... as long as i get sex!

 

[Onder]

I don't even know what celebrities I would find sexy enough to post here. Maybe because I don't know many. I mean, why would I care about a woman because she was a girlfriend of some singer? I have no chance knowing her. But she's pretty, yeah. I can't think of many actresses I really like either. Only two that come to mind are Kirsten Dunst and Emma Watson. I just don't know any celebrities. WTF.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

my medical doctor friends tell me that a female having 6-pack-abs or buns-of-steel is not medically normal, and that this is the explanation of why it's so extremely difficult for a female to acquire/maintain the toned abs/toned ass
i really do understand the concept of "discipline and self control", but med doctors are telling me that having 6-pack-abs/buns-of-steel can actually damage a female's reproductive system
basically, they're saying that if you're starting off clinically morbidly obese, and then you start loosing weight and you loose most of the weight really rapidly and then you'll hit a wall where "you just can't loose that last 10 pounds" and that this is because this "last 10 pounds" is actually supposed to be there
if a female is between puberty and menopause she should have a "cushion layer" of fat wrapped around the uterus to protect the potential fetus
again, i feel the need to point out the difference between
http://www.google.com/search?num=10...0.0.276.809.1j2j2.5.0...0.0...1ac.PN7I5oEx-_A and
http://www.google.com/search?num=10...pw.r_qf.&fp=bad6327fce22bf7f&biw=1366&bih=667

the whooty girls are sexy, the SSBBW girls are nasty

also
my aversion to to the 6-pack-abs/buns-of-steel on females is not really a healthy/unhealthy thing
it's a masculine/feminine thing
to me the 6-pack-abs/buns-of-steel always just looks masculine to me, i don't like girls with 6-pack abs/buns-of-steel because i'm not gay

Well first of all, like I said, I'm talking about perception, so its possible what people are attracted to might not be the ideal reproductive body type. Second of all, I'm not talking about 6 pack/ buns of steel women; honestly that's a pretty uncommon body type among women. I'm just talking about why many men in contemporary society find slimmer or "fit" women more attractive and trying to come up with a plausible hypothesis.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Is this the right thread to bitch about relationships? I broke up with my girlfriend of several months a few days ago. Dunno what the fuck I'm doing with myself. Feel mostly quite blank. She's a fucking psycho but it was largely my fault for stressing out and being so paranoid that eventually ruined it. I thought I really wanted it at first but now I just think "fuck relationships", the thought of it is quite repulsive at the moment and I'm paying little attention to/ want nothing to do with any females currently. I just feel like a twat because I couldn't avoid the inevitable me ruining things again.

Did she do anything to justify or substantiate your paranoia? If so, you're better off without her and finding someone you can trust. If not, then you need to stop taking life so seriously. It's always possible to be paranoid/ untrustful of a partner if you allow yourself to be; however, you have to give conditional trust to start out a relationship. Until a girl gives you a reason not to trust her, you need to grant her a legit degree of trust, otherwise the relationship will have no feet to stand on. If you're incapable of doing that then you're probably better off being single for the time being.

 

[SentinelSlain]

Anne Vyalitsyna, ex-gf of the Maroon 5 singer. all i can say is, what an idiot. if i had a woman like this, i'd do everything she asks... as long as i get sex!

being with such a woman boosts your ego to the degree that you can overestimate your ability to score another just like her.

 

[Dak]

Anne Vyalitsyna, ex-gf of the Maroon 5 singer. all i can say is, what an idiot. if i had a woman like this, i'd do everything she asks... as long as i get sex!

You've got the pussy on a pedestal.

 

[arg]

well there IS a condition. if she was witholding then yeah drop the bitch

 

[Zephyrus]

Debating whether to update my OKC account since I'm still getting messages from girls in Maine. On the other hand I see pretty girls by the fuckload frollicking about the U of Iowa campus every day.

 

[Jimmy... Dead.]

To paraphrase Diogenes: A gf/wife is a luxury no man can afford. It is for those who have nothing better to do. It is not possible to be free if one has a wife and children, yet freedom would not be so difficult to attain were prison not so sweet.

 

[~Derek~]

You've got the pussy on a pedestal.

Doing everything she asks would give her all the power in the relationship, and suddenly she doesn't need you.

Ok, I know a lot of you on here do online dating. I've done it some, gotten laid from it, makeouts, but I could be doing it better. And by that, I mean getting more messages replied to, which means more girls, more dating, more sex, etc...you get the idea.

But the whole thing can be quite confusing. Be too interesting by saying too much in a sentence, and you can come off as needy if a girl is just saying "Ok that's good" with 2-3 word responses.
Also, should you keep chatting away for say, 2-3 weeks(let's say 20 sentences together or more typed from both parties), and see if she continues chatting away before you ask for that number? For me, I'll do 1 reply a day and log off, no real time chatting. Got other stuff to do besides chat with girls.
Or, should you chat until the topics die out, don't reply back, and see if she initiates contact again? That's worked for me before, but I'm interested in seeing what is best to do.

For a number, I chat for a few senteces in text, then suggest hanging out, which they almost always do. I spend zero $ on my dates, usully just meet in a public place, my house, or theirs.

I just want to improve my online "game" so to speak, it's all a numbers game, but I want to think smarter, not harder, and get more girls into me. I get a new message from a random girl I've never seen before on POF once every 1-2 weeks. That's zero work from me, except for a pic and a profile I did months ago.But then the work begins as you start chatting with the girl.

So what are your online dating strategies that get you dates or get you laid?

 

[zabu of nΩd]

Fuck, that is some quality work Derek.

 

[Zephyrus]

To paraphrase Diogenes: A gf/wife is a luxury no man can afford. It is for those who have nothing better to do. It is not possible to be free if one has a wife and children, yet freedom would not be so difficult to attain were prison not so sweet.

Quote from St. Jerome:

non est ergo uxor ducenda sapienti. primum enim impediri studia philosophiae, nec posse quemquam libris et uxori pariter inservire.

A wise man therefore must not take a wife. For in the first place his study of philosophy will be hindered, and it is impossible for anyone to attend to his books and his wife.

 

[arg]

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[King Richard]

To paraphrase Diogenes: A gf/wife is a luxury no man can afford. It is for those who have nothing better to do. It is not possible to be free if one has a wife and children, yet freedom would not be so difficult to attain were prison not so sweet.

Quote from St. Jerome:

non est ergo uxor ducenda sapienti. primum enim impediri studia philosophiae, nec posse quemquam libris et uxori pariter inservire.

A wise man therefore must not take a wife. For in the first place his study of philosophy will be hindered, and it is impossible for anyone to attend to his books and his wife.

yawn

 

[Addo_Of_Nex]

As an aspiring philosopher/mathematician/general fucking geek, that's fundamentally retarded.