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[CiG]

Get outta here you yellow fuccboi.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

And that is automatically a bad thing because...?

Because there's nothing else going for it and there are literally hundreds of forgotten, mediocre trad/USPM bands from the 80s that were doing it better (albeit without lame keyboards and a drum machine and sappy post-Metallica harmony lines).

 

[The Ozzman]

Because recognition and money are a direct metaphor to quality.

How much money have the following bands made?

The Beatles
Deep Purple
Led Zeppelin
Rush
Pink Floyd

Are these bands lesser quality?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

That Asphyx video won't play for copyright reasons here, listening to some rehearsal version of it, I guess this sounds alright but I would still get bored very quickly with a full album of this. Dream Death did this much better.

 

[CiG]

How much money have the following bands made?

The Beatles
Deep Purple
Led Zeppelin
Rush
Pink Floyd

Are these bands lesser quality?

Sure, they make about as much money as Lady Gaga, Beyonce and Justin Bieber.

Because there's nothing else going for it and there are literally hundreds of forgotten, mediocre trad/USPM bands from the 80s that were doing it better (albeit without lame keyboards and a drum machine and sappy post-Metallica harmony lines).

I like mediocre/trad USPM from the 1980's. Add a raw, evil atmosphere to it and some vocals from hell and I'm happy.

Still better than Avenged Sevenfold.

 

[The Ozzman]

Get outta here you yellow fuccboi.

He at least gets laid more than you do ;-)

 

[CiG]

He at least gets laid more than you do ;-)

It's probably pretty equal, except I save way more money.

 

[The Ozzman]

It's probably pretty equal, except I save way more money.

Fair point

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I like mediocre/trad USPM from the 1980's. Add a raw, evil atmosphere to it and some vocals from hell and I'm happy.

Still better than Avenged Sevenfold.

But where in the hell do you hear an "evil atmosphere" in that song? The main riff is just straight 8th note chugging on a major scale. The lyrics are largely positive as well. Most Jpop I listen to sounds more evil than that.

 

[CiG]

You listen to J-pop?

The evil atmosphere is in the raw production.

 

[Krow]

This thread is as bad as the user that created it.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Well, Japanese pop anyways, I guess that's not the same thing as Jpop.

Which is exactly my point. "Melodic black metal", especially in the context of "Hellenic black metal", is not even black metal. It's traditional/power metal with shit production and skramz. Power metal for 90s exxxtreeem metal fuccbois. Metal basically exhausted its creative potential by 1994, since then it's just various ways of ripping off 80s metal while pretending to do something new.

 

[CiG]

What if, that is what black metal is?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

What if, that is what black metal is?

Black metal lacks any kind of unified definition. A genre that can be anything isn't really anything.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

Black metal lacks any kind of unified definition. A genre that can be anything isn't really anything.

 

[CiG]

Black metal lacks any kind of unified definition. A genre that can be anything isn't really anything.

I've always felt that black metal is more than anything else defined by romantic elements, so in a way it is rather nebulous.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I've always felt that black metal is more than anything else defined by romantic elements, so in a way it is rather nebulous.

Power metal obviously beats black metal when it comes to romanticism, but in general I don't disagree, more evidence that black metal is flowery, low-art tripe.

 

[CiG]

Power metal obviously beats black metal when it comes to romanticism, but in general I don't disagree, more evidence that black metal is flowery, low-art tripe.

I think you might have misunderstood my usage of romantic here, I more meant that black metal is defined aesthetically rather than technically. But I'm not really sure even that makes sense, black metal is pretty fucking nonsensical.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I don't see how the sensibility of something is related to the aesthetic cohesion of something