Metal sub-genres

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The five biggest ones in my opinion (that are active) are:

Nu-Metal (Dying genre, but like Kornish sounding bands. Some of them are still around, universally verse chorus)
Metalcore (Lamb of God, Killswitch Engage bands. Much better than Nu-Metal but still fairly mediocre, near universally verse chorus)
Black Metal (Underproduced, fast, high pitched vocals, normally anti-christ in nature, unpredictable song structure)
Power Metal (Clean vocals, dualing guitar riffs, lots of solos, mythology based like mostly Tolkien and goblins stuff, unpredictable song structure)
Death Metal (Blast beats and double bass to yin yang, some solo a lot some don't, LOW FUCKING DEATH VOCALS, unpredictable song structure, very wide range of topics discussed)

What do u know, I listed my favorite sub genre's in order of least favorite to favorite. Awesome lol.
 
Ahhh - this raises the question. Is 'Nu-metal' metal?

I would say no.

You forgot a few obvious ones such as thrash and doom. After then of course we start breaking these basics into millions of sub-sub-genres!
 
I said active. Thrash is dead.

Doom... yeah sure throw Doom in there. Grindcore... I'm not sure if it's been productive enough around 2000 to be considered active.

But don't start throwing stuff like Goregrind or Viking in. Those are only lyric styles. And then stuff lke Epic Metal and Troll metal which are really just off-shoots of power and black. And I wanted to keep it at five
 
for genres that are and used to be......power, speed, thrash, death, black, electronica, viking, grind, metalcore, hardcore, punk, heavy, neo-classical, folk, gothic, industrial, melodic, Gothenburg, etc...many combos
 
EVH316 said:
Ahhh - this raises the question. Is 'Nu-metal' metal?

I would say no.

You forgot a few obvious ones such as thrash and doom. After then of course we start breaking these basics into millions of sub-sub-genres!
How nu-metal got the title metal makes about as much sense as why the "nu" is miss spelt (is that one word or a conjustion or what? :Smug: ). It's more of a popish genre to me.

I said active. Thrash is dead.
I don't know about this one. THis is mostly interpretation, but if this is true then where do you classify bands like Dewscented, Shadows Fall (PLEASE don't say metalcore, SF are so much more), old Children of Bodom, or The Black Dahlia Murder. I think these guys fit a modern thrash profile. Solid fast riffs with fast relatively short but quick solos and well, thrashy drumbeats.
 
a kid told me once that Korn used to be Numetal, but they have recently converted to metalcore/hard rock.....


How about a new genre? Shitcore
 
The_Harmathroditic_Ferret said:
But don't start throwing stuff like Goregrind or Viking in. Those are only lyric styles. And then stuff lke Epic Metal and Troll metal which are really just off-shoots of power and black. And I wanted to keep it at five

I don't really think Viking Metal is only lyrically based. Bands also use vocal styles to represent the people as well as sound effects, etc. Right?
 
Narg n Lamb said:
hmm lets see

black, death, heavy, nu-metal, hair metal..hehe, power, melodic hmmm what would Opeth be considered? they have great instrumentals with a mix of heavy stuff....

Opeth is obviously progressive metal, or maybe progressive death metal.
Death metal.
Now there's a sub-genre with as ridiculous amount of sub-sub-genres: doom death, gore death, melodic death, progressive death, brutal death, technical death, hyperblast death, etc., etc.
 
The_Harmathroditic_Ferret said:
Come... stay a while. Let us teach you what real metal is.

The five biggest ones in my opinion (that are active) are:

Nu-Metal (Dying genre, but like Kornish sounding bands. Some of them are still around, universally verse chorus)
Metalcore (Lamb of God, Killswitch Engage bands. Much better than Nu-Metal but still fairly mediocre, near universally verse chorus)
Black Metal (Underproduced, fast, high pitched vocals, normally anti-christ in nature, unpredictable song structure)
Power Metal (Clean vocals, dualing guitar riffs, lots of solos, mythology based like mostly Tolkien and goblins stuff, unpredictable song structure)
Death Metal (Blast beats and double bass to yin yang, some solo a lot some don't, LOW FUCKING DEATH VOCALS, unpredictable song structure, very wide range of topics discussed)

What do u know, I listed my favorite sub genre's in order of least favorite to favorite. Awesome lol.


Dude, that are genres, not sub-genres :grin: For example.. Death metal is a genre, and some sub-genres are brutal death metal, melodic death metal, death/grind etc.
 
A style and and a sub-genre are basically the same thing. Some people have argued that doom is a style of death metal, which is really only the case with death/doom stuff like early My Dying Bride which would be death metal if you sped up the riffs.

Viking is definitely a subgenre. Viking bands have a certain style; it goes beyond lyrics.
 
Gore-illa said:
Dude, that are genres, not sub-genres :grin: For example.. Death metal is a genre, and some sub-genres are brutal death metal, melodic death metal, death/grind etc.

Metal s a genre. Melodic Death Metal Death/Grind, Blackened death metal, re like super sub genre's.

Susperia said:
I don't really think Viking Metal is only lyrically based. Bands also use vocal styles to represent the people as well as sound effects, etc. Right?


When a genre has bands rangng from Amon Amarth, Bathory, Enslaved, Windir, Finntroll etc. I think it's too hard to say they all fall under on genre because they lke to use the same epithets to describe Odin and Valhalla.
 
Susperia said:
I don't really think Viking Metal is only lyrically based. Bands also use vocal styles to represent the people as well as sound effects, etc. Right?

indeed, i think what makes viking metal what it is, is the melodies and riffs. i mean, alot of bands sing about epic battle scenes, does that make manowar viking metal? no. viking metal bands like thyrfing, einherjer, turisas... all have folk melodies mixed in. and it typically is a bigger part of the music than the metal part
~gR~
 
Idunnonuten said:
THis is mostly interpretation, but if this is true then where do you classify bands like Dewscented, Shadows Fall (PLEASE don't say metalcore, SF are so much more), old Children of Bodom, or The Black Dahlia Murder.

Definitely not thrash.

SF is metalcore. Old CoB is Extreme Power Metal. The Black Dahlia Murder is an odd offshoot between brutal death metal and metalcore...I just call them Deathcore.

I have not heard much Dewscented, so I do not know how to classify them.