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I agree that in metal history the US can't really compete. Pentagram and Dio to my mind are the closest, I love Grand Funk Railroad and Alice Cooper but they're not metal.
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Dio is the pinnacle of traditional heavy metal
Venom had influences on the creation of thrash but was not thrash. No one is like "who's your favorite thrash band?" "Venom" lol. Thrash began with Metallica and slayer. Same year as venom's first anyway.
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I still don't see that as metal, but he's obviously important in many ways to heavy music in general.
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You constantly tout others as "sheep" for having certain opinions, asserting it fervently. You seem to be incognizant that you may very well be slave to your own dogma and opinions. You're like the man who lives under the weight of his own rock while shouting down others as ignoramuses for not seeing the incomparable genius of your own living situation. Instead of providing argumentation, you just hipsterishly dismiss other's opinions as mainstream or sheepish.Keep telling yourself that.
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Welcome and onward, he's metal. Excluding his art rock and new wave stuff of course. That's just an obvious example I gave for the sake of its obviousness.
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Dio is a top 10 trad band, and a top 5 power band, but the pinnnacle of trad? No. Alice arguably had equal if not more stylistic influences on metal than Judas Priest, from the makeup to the gender bending. Venom's early demos seem to be the birth of thrash.
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I'd prefer an example from a year that would make him relevant to this topic though, because not only is heavy metal established by 1987, so is black metal, death metal, thrash metal, pretty much every subgenre.
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The Black Widow is certainly a metal song. I'd say thanks to his 80's and 90's metal records, combined with his roots deep influence on the genre, put him there.
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Congrats you troglodyte, you've only proven my point. I congratulate you for actually managing to make your own skull tissue the densest element known to man.It's so much fun to watch the sheep bleat.
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Lucky for you mirrors are a thing then right?
The problem is some of those things, i.e. glam and groove, suck. Simply developing a new style in and of itself isn't an accomplishment. The new style needs to contribute something worthwhile to the genre. I think those various abominations have to count against the US to some degree. That said, you're overall point is taken. The US has consistently produced for 30+ years.
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Sweden vs. Norway
United Kingdom vs. USA
Glam metal is better, more artistic, and more relevant than black metal. Objective fact.
American black metal (Slayer, early Exodus, etc) is better than Norwegian black metal anyways.
United Kingdom vs. USA
Glam metal is better, more artistic, and more relevant than black metal. Objective fact.
American black metal (Slayer, early Exodus, etc) is better than Norwegian black metal anyways.
