Metal World Cup

[Slayed Necros]

Bathory, At the Gates, Dissection, Merciless, Dismember, Nihilist/Entombed, Sacramentum, Necrophobic, Candlemass, Treblinka/Tiamat, Nifelheim, Dawn, Nåstrond, Arckanum, Runemagick, Eucharist, Sorhin, Niden Div. 187, etc.

 

[CiG]

Good bunch. I think I might change my vote, also because I just remembered that Gehennah are Swedish.

 

[Slayed Necros]

Gehennah too, even if just for the fucking cover art of Hardrocker.

 

[EspaDa]

Shit, after lots of thinking I've come to realize that Sweden is superior to Norway. At least when it comes to multitude of bands in different subgenres.

Sweden vs. Norway
United Kingdom vs. USA

 

[Blind Guardian]

Sweden vs. Norway

I go with Sweden even though I think Norway's top 4-5 bands are better than any other country's top bands. The problem is they mostly do the same type of music and behind those 4-5 bands there's not much else, while Sweden is diverse and has good and historically important bands in almost every genre of metal.

United Kingdom vs. USA

It's hard to go against the UK because there wouldn't be any metal without it, and there's at least 3-4 good British metal bands for every decade after the 70s. I have to go with diversity again though; USA has a plethora of good and important bands in almost every genre.

 

[-CC-]

Shit, after lots of thinking I've come to realize that Sweden is superior to Norway. At least when it comes to multitude of bands in different subgenres.

No, Sweden is superior in every way. You had it right at first.

As for my vote:

Sweden vs Norway

UK vs USA

 

[EspaDa]

When it comes to black metal Norway is obviously superior.

 

[CiG]

Eh, perhaps. But even as an American metalhead, I don't feel we've created anything capable of outdoing the majesty of Sabbath, Maiden, or Priest, or the power of Motörhead or Venom. We've got droves of legendary bands, and have made our fair share of brilliant innovations to the genre, but still, it's nearly impossible to top all those ultra classic monster bands. Maybe I'm wrong, I dunno.

USPM is one of my favourite genres, plus there is Pentagram, Manilla Road, Legend.

 

[CiG]

I love USPM. But Black motherfrigging Sabbath. The godfathers themselves. Motörhead, arguably one of the most consistent bands in rock and roll, and originators of speed and thrash. I just have a hard time seeing this, even as a rabid fanboy of Manilla Road, Pentagram, Legend, Manowar, etc.

Fair enough, but for me the continued consistency of the country itself is the most important factor. Lemmy is already dead, the Sabbathians soon to follow.

 

[Baroque]

UK was better in the 70's but the US scene had surpassed it by 1985, and since then

 

[CiG]

Manilla Road.

 

[Baroque]

A fair point. But I'm hard-pressed to find American bands that can top those original legacies. Death, Manowar, Dio, Slayer, and Megadeth probably come the closest.

Metallica also, the whole Bay Area thrash scene like testament and so on, the Florida death metal scene (obituary, atheist, morbid angel...) socal thrash (which isn't mentioned as much but there are so many good bands, slayer and dark angel for example). The big names in progressive metal from dream theater to symphony x to queensryche.

Tons of innovation here for better or worse. Hollywood glam metal, Texas groove metal, Seattle grunge etc.

 

[CiG]

I love USA for it's death/grind, Autopsy, Abscess, Mortician, Impetigo, Dr Shrinker, Necrophagia, Repulsion, Macabre.

 

[Baroque]

NWOBHM, trad, speed, black, thrash, doom, Christian, stoner, stoner doom, all British. That's plenty of innovation. The genre period is British made, courtesy of Sabbath.

Lol thrash is not British.

 

[Baroque]

Ok nvm misread that Second post

 

[CiG]

Dude death was created in Florida.

Groove was created in Texas and New Orleans.

Glam was Hollywood.

He said we've, he's American.

 

[Baroque]

Motörhead and Venom.

Not thrash. Speed metal or proto thrash. The first Real thrash band was right here in California. Bands that are known for being thrash bands. Motörhead is a whole different scene from thrash.

 

[Baroque]

Alice Cooper is the only metal act I can think of that matches the British old guard as an equal.

Nah you already named a better one, Dio.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

NWOBHM, trad, speed, black, thrash, doom, Christian, stoner, stoner doom, all British. That's plenty of innovation. The genre period is British made, courtesy of Sabbath.

Just stop.

 

[CiG]

I agree that in metal history the US can't really compete. Pentagram and Dio to my mind are the closest, I love Grand Funk Railroad and Alice Cooper but they're not metal.