Metal World Cup

[Baroque]

UK was better in the 70's but the US scene had surpassed it by 1985, and since then

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

A fair point. But I'm hard-pressed to find American bands that can top those original legacies. Death, Manowar, Dio, Slayer, and Megadeth probably come the closest.

 

[CiG]

Manilla Road.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Them too, but for me that's the issue, for me, they only come close.

 

[Baroque]

A fair point. But I'm hard-pressed to find American bands that can top those original legacies. Death, Manowar, Dio, Slayer, and Megadeth probably come the closest.

Metallica also, the whole Bay Area thrash scene like testament and so on, the Florida death metal scene (obituary, atheist, morbid angel...) socal thrash (which isn't mentioned as much but there are so many good bands, slayer and dark angel for example). The big names in progressive metal from dream theater to symphony x to queensryche.

Tons of innovation here for better or worse. Hollywood glam metal, Texas groove metal, Seattle grunge etc.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

NWOBHM, trad, speed, black, thrash, doom, Christian, stoner, stoner doom, all British. That's plenty of innovation. The genre period is British made, courtesy of Sabbath.

 

[CiG]

I love USA for it's death/grind, Autopsy, Abscess, Mortician, Impetigo, Dr Shrinker, Necrophagia, Repulsion, Macabre.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

We've created death, glam, groove, and maybe power. That's what we've got in terms of good subgenre creation, nothing to sneeze at, and flattens practically everyone else, but the UK. The UK is honestly the only country on the planet I feel that beats us in producing heavy metal.

 

[Baroque]

NWOBHM, trad, speed, black, thrash, doom, Christian, stoner, stoner doom, all British. That's plenty of innovation. The genre period is British made, courtesy of Sabbath.

Lol thrash is not British.

 

[Baroque]

Ok nvm misread that Second post

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Lol thrash is not British.

Motörhead and Venom.

 

[CiG]

Dude death was created in Florida.

Groove was created in Texas and New Orleans.

Glam was Hollywood.

He said we've, he's American.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Dude death was created in Florida.

I know. Which is a state in the American union, I'm American, when I say "we" I mean America.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Alice Cooper is the only metal act I can think of that matches the British old guard as an equal.

 

[Baroque]

Motörhead and Venom.

Not thrash. Speed metal or proto thrash. The first Real thrash band was right here in California. Bands that are known for being thrash bands. Motörhead is a whole different scene from thrash.

 

[Baroque]

Alice Cooper is the only metal act I can think of that matches the British old guard as an equal.

Nah you already named a better one, Dio.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Nah you already named a better one, Dio.

Dio does not beat Alice, sorry, and I say that as one of the biggest Dio fans you'll ever meet.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Not thrash. Speed metal or proto thrash. The first Real thrash band was right here in California. Bands that are known for being thrash bands. Motörhead is a whole different scene from thrash.

Motörhead is debatable, yes, but Venom? I've no clue how anyone could deny it with them.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

NWOBHM, trad, speed, black, thrash, doom, Christian, stoner, stoner doom, all British. That's plenty of innovation. The genre period is British made, courtesy of Sabbath.

Just stop.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Just stop.

We've been over this, and you lost.