Metalcore

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Very true, sir.

Since The Flood is pretty good tuffXcore.

 

[Manic Ferocity]

Just out of curiosity, what exactly is straight-up hardcore (disregarding hardcore punk for a minute)? The only bands I can think of in the genre are Throwdown and Hatebreed, really.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Hm...well, Since The Flood is a pretty good example and I just mentioned them. Terror, Bury Your Dead, Evergreen Terrace, etc. are all hardcore and not really metalcore.

 

[Manic Ferocity]

The Flood aren't bad. I could do without the excessive breakdowns, though.

I'm actually starting to dig some of the straight edge groups as well. xTyrantx and xKill Everyonex are pretty fucking good and have a strong old school hardcore punk influence.

 

[Satanstoenail]

Machine Head isn't, but the others are...sadly.

They just sound like commercial metal to me. I don't hear any core influence at all. It's all too polished.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Well, there's the breakdown-based songwriting, vocal trade-offs (not really required in metalcore but it's the genre that currently uses them most), some old-school "-core" influence in the tempos and shit, and overly chuggy guitar riffs...I tend to agree with you, that shit is way too gay to be real metalcore

 

[ohiogrinder]

I highly doubt most metalcore bands are influenced by Korn...most are influenced by Throwdown, Earth Crisis, Discharge, etc...

I'm strictly talking about "mainstream" metalcore.

Discharge is the shit.

yes, yes they are. probably one of the best punk bands ever, right up there with GBH, The Varukers, The Exploited and Chaos UK.

 

[Hatebreeder]

Discharge is the shit.

.

We have them to thank for all things heavy and -core.

 

[vixTRON]

I doubt most metalcore kids even know who Discharge is, so I don't see how they got thrown in as an influence.

 

[Manic Ferocity]

They're probably talking about the founding metalcore bands.

 

[Hatebreeder]

I doubt most metalcore kids even know who Discharge is, so I don't see how they got thrown in as an influence.

The early metalcore bands probably do, but I can't say much for the modern scene. I'm usually surprised by what bands they do know, though.

 

[vixTRON]

Maybe. The younger Scene kids I've come across seem to be just as ignorant of punk as they are of metal.

 

[Manic Ferocity]

Because those kids are usually influenced by the likes of Killswitch Engage, Shadows Fall, Atreyu, Job For A Cowboy, Unearth (I like them but that's irrelevant), etc. They're usually influenced by current trends.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Unearth are one of the better modern mainstream-core bands...they don't pussy out or anything like KSE does. The Oncoming Storm has a bunch of good riffs and solos.

Did anyone listen to The Concubine when I posted them?

 

[Manic Ferocity]

Yeah, Unearth and Parkway Drive are the only two mainstream metalcore bands I can think of that don't really compromise their music.

I listened to The Concubine. I liked it.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Another couple recommendations...Euro-core stuff:

A Traitor Like Judas
As We Fight
Koldborn
Born From Pain

 

[Gold]

a traiter like judus puts elements from lamb of god and killswitch engage to very good use

 

[llamaking]

Because those kids are usually influenced by the likes of Killswitch Engage, Shadows Fall, Atreyu, Job For A Cowboy, Unearth (I like them but that's irrelevant), etc. They're usually influenced by current trends.

Everyone always hates on jfac

ill like em till the end.

edit: mostly because of them, i wouldnt have discovered good death metal.

 

[Rabid Headbanger]

Everyone says they're so awesome. To bad they aren't as good as a shitload of other DM.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Actually, JFAC is pretty much a joke on true death metal.