Mixing session done - band refuses to pay

[Djabthrash]

re edit them without your name associated. badly produce them. edit them. add wierd sound effects in or overdubs about racial, sexual deviant behavior stuff and off the wall crap. make a myspace page and upload the nonsense . get the cartoon program that changes peoples pictures from pix to cartoon characters. use their pix from the myspace with it and upload your new pix to your myspace. change the names to parodies of their real names. like mike brown = michelle brownhole. jarod lag = jarod douchebag. stan boomer = shitstain boomerang. you get the idea.... sounds childish but you should get a good laugh out of it. I doubt you see any money. no offense by specially at 1 grand a song. Obviously they cant afford it or there would be no dispute as of now. Id do the band parody of them. screw it.

LAWL

 

[tgs]

re edit them without your name associated. badly produce them. edit them. (etc)

If I wanted to ridicule them, all I have to do is solo some of the vocal parts.

EDIT: Oh sorry, I completely forgot about this of course:
"the track is copyrighted and all rights reserved by us"

 

[HollowmanPL]

I think we all should go out and have a beer...

 

[tgs]

A little update. One guy from the band (supposedly) posted this on another forum:

Tore, this is Kostas from ANGSTRIDDEN.

I must say we are dissapointed by your so called 'professionalism' again. Posting craps about us on forums is not very business-like now is it?

Well, you will not see that money for your SCAM (thats exactly what it is, you Irish driveway tarmacker!!!), emails have no legal binding you dfool!

Well I simply told the story and made people make up their own minds.

 

[Skaldir]

this is going to be an even bigger shitfest from now on...
Shouldn't have made it public I think

 

[Ermz]

I agree. This whole thing is just really petty now.

 

[tgs]

this is going to be an even bigger shitfest from now on...
Shouldn't have made it public I think

Seems to have been a fake comment though. Either way, I would much rather see it in open discussion than to just sit quietly and let it pass. Obviously it's a subject that people are very eager to comment about.

 

[Skaldir]

Yeah its interesting to read, but people also like to watch car crashes You know what I mean.
What I ask myself is, what is your goal with putting up this thread? Do you think you get your money in the end?
I think the only thing you can do now is move on and don't let darken your soul with the shit that has happend

 

[James Murphy]

A little update. One guy from the band (supposedly) posted this on another forum:

>>... you Irish driveway tarmacker!!!<<

HEY!!! my grandfather was an Irish driveway tarmacker.... / potato farmer.... / drunk... / IRA militant.... / Leprechaun. :Smug:

 

[tgs]

Yeah its interesting to read, but people also like to watch car crashes You know what I mean.
What I ask myself is, what is your goal with putting up this thread? Do you think you get your money in the end?
I think the only thing you can do now is move on and don't let darken your soul with the shit that has happend

No no no NO, please read what I've said over and over, but I'll say it again just to make it perfectly clear: if I still thought that I would get the band to pay I would NEVER have put ANYTHING in public. The band made it clear that they had absolutely no intention to pay and the situation was way beyond negotiating status. I absolutely didn't think it would make them MORE inclined to pay if I made it public. Like I said, this is how I'm spending the invisible 600 euros.

 

[thefyn]

Ok, I'll try to address some of the things you bring up (the critics that is; the rest: I want o make love to you):

*) Cursing: yes indeed. I cursed at the band, lo and behold. This after telling them the price, explaining the reason for the price, being met by 10 days of silence and when asking if they commenced with the payment (with bills stacking up and nothing coming in) getting an email explaining that they had basically looked at the price for MASTERING, taken that as the price for a full-length (while in reality it clearly says that it's flat rate) seeming to expect a price even lower than THAT even though it had absolutely nothing to do with mixing, and saying that there was absolutely no way they could pay. FFS, put it into context. It may not have been the perfect way to address it but I'm only human.

So if the bills are piling up, why did you take forever getting back to them on their initial inquiries?

Surely if you are stressed about money, you would be all over an interested client?

 

[thefyn]

As for using 'friend' count as a judgment of a bands ability to pay is quite frankly one of the most stupid things I've ever read. Should I also judge any other service oriented profession by how many idiots send them a friend request? I mean really? Really? I'm almost like James on this one - typing while stuttering those words. Really? One of the band members may be the wealthiest kid in his class, just the cheapest mother fucker in the world. Really?

OK, time to return to reality where people research purchases and understand what they have agreed to.

So a band that has been around for 3 years, and has less than 2000 friends, and is a black metal band, is not a flag for you in their ability to pay for professional mixing/mastering? We are talking $1000 for one song. You think most unpopular black metal bands are fine with that? Because oh look, you lose, they COULD NOT AFFORD IT. Proof positive for my opinion.

Look, I know you think overdoing the "stupidest comment ever" thing may prove your point, the more you shout about it the more people will chime in right? I mean people stuttering at the preposterous nature of my claim that unpopular bands usually wont trump up for pro studio work is just overdoing it.

At the end of the day, they could not. So how is my opinion the stupidest thing you ever read? Even the general public know the average musician is broke, let along fucking black metal ones. haha. Way to close ranks.

Stupidest comment ever....fuck me. Have you ever seen comments on youtube? You are flat out lying/overcompensating to win an argument that is already lost. Because THEY COULD NOT AFFORD IT.

I had the gift of after the fact foresight to back up my opinion. Stop trying to act clever about a very simple chain of events.

 

[digitaldeath]

HEY!!! my grandfather was an Irish driveway tarmacker.... / potato farmer.... / drunk... / IRA militant.... / Leprechaun. :Smug:

I'm an Irish drunk!

 

[006]

So a band that has been around for 3 years, and has less than 2000 friends, and is a black metal band, is not a flag for you in their ability to pay for professional mixing/mastering? We are talking $1000 for one song. You think most unpopular black metal bands are fine with that? Because oh look, you lose, they COULD NOT AFFORD IT. Proof positive for my opinion.

Look, I know you think overdoing the "stupidest comment ever" thing may prove your point, the more you shout about it the more people will chime in right? I mean people stuttering at the preposterous nature of my claim that unpopular bands usually wont trump up for pro studio work is just overdoing it.

At the end of the day, they could not. So how is my opinion the stupidest thing you ever read? Even the general public know the average musician is broke, let along fucking black metal ones. haha. Way to close ranks.

Stupidest comment ever....fuck me. Have you ever seen comments on youtube? You are flat out lying/overcompensating to win an argument that is already lost. Because THEY COULD NOT AFFORD IT.

I had the gift of after the fact foresight to back up my opinion. Stop trying to act clever about a very simple chain of events.

Dude, again, there are tons of bands with way less MySpace hype going on that could afford that... I don't even have a MySpace for one of my bands and I can afford Tore mixing a song or two out of my own pocket... Seriously you need to just stop using the MySpace argument, lol. It literally has no relevance whatsoever man. I deal with blackmetal bands a lot, they aren't as broke as you think

 

[GarethSE]

i STILL want to hear this fucking mix, goddamn it

 

[nwright]

Dude, again, there are tons of bands with way less MySpace hype going on that could afford that... I don't even have a MySpace for one of my bands and I can afford Tore mixing a song or two out of my own pocket... Seriously you need to just stop using the MySpace argument, lol. It literally has no relevance whatsoever man. I deal with blackmetal bands a lot, they aren't as broke as you think

I gotta agree, thefyn...The Myspace "popularity" vs. what kind of money dudes in a band have is REALLY REALLY REALLY grasping at straws.

Now, if you were to get on Myspace and see their band/show pics and see they use Crate amps and Bronze Warlocks, then MAYBE you'd have an argument! :Smug::zombie:

 

[Ataraxia2320]

I'm an Irish drunk!

Il second that, plus i do tarmac driveways on the cheap

 

[GarethSE]

i wish i was irish, i really do. my lifestyle would be so much more justified.

 

[006]

i wish i was irish, i really do. my lifestyle would be so much more justified.

Dude, even the Irish don't eat so many potatoes in one day...







LOLz

 

[digitaldeath]

i wish i was irish, i really do. my lifestyle would be so much more justified.

Defo gotta sort something out for St. Paddy's day so Gareth - I know Lasse would be onboard too!