National Socialism in Music

[the alumnus]

Still, the continuing allure of National Socialism for musicians is that it, alone of the great ideological systems of the modern era, recognized the enduring power and value of art. Indeed, National Socialism was in large measure an attempt to make art of politics. This is the enduring philosophical achievement of National Socialism, the recasting of political ideology in terms of myth, culture and aesthetics rather than in purely economic and material terms. In this sense, it remains a potent influence today, particularly on the post-Marxist Left (though you'd never get any of them to admit their indebtedness to the Nazis).

i have to question if they really recognize the value of art. this was the same group that shut down the bauhaus and banned jazz? the only art that was allowed to flourish in nazi germany was a very specific sort of art, which leads to the conclusion that they didn't really appreciate the value of art. so, no the nazis were not great patrons of the arts. though there is a really interesting book on nazi art on amazon.com that i recommend. it includes alot of nazi artwork that is hidden from the general public, both by german and american governments. back to the topic, i tend to agree with your first assessment, people like nazi iconography because it pisses people off. so sayeth lemmy...

 

[Planetary Eulogy]

Jazz is my pals noise, not art.

 

[anonymousnick2001]

Congratulations. You've managed to destroy any credibility you ever had or could have ever hoped to achieve. Get laid and get out.

 

[Kenneth R.]

Jazz is my pals noise, not art.

WHAT THE FLYING FUCK?

NEVER speak of music or art again. you obviously have no fucking clue what either one is.

 

[Barking Pumpkin]

Wait.....that was really serious?

 

[unknown]

I seriously hope not

 

[Cythraul]

Jazz is my pals noise, not art.

That kind of asinine, anus.com bullshit is what ruins any kind of intelligent discussion.

 

[BlackGoat]

Wow it's amazing how long you can write with so little to say.

He took classes...

 

[R.I.P.2]

Ahahaha...I guess you guys don't know what 'tongue-in-cheek' means.

 

[The ORIGINAL South Of Heaven]

Jazz is my pals noise, not art.

I agree. While Jazz has had some incredible musicians, I can't fucking stand it.

 

[no country for old wainds]

Ahahaha...I guess you guys don't know what 'tongue-in-cheek' means.

I know :| Jesus Christ I'd hate to be in front of one of these knees as they jerk.

 

[Crimson Velvet]

I can't stand jazz either, and it was original a genre based solely on improvisation and was practically exclusively played among black people, so I see what Planetary Eulogy meant, although he should've predicted that it wouldn't be well received.

 

[R.I.P.2]

Not only did Planetary Eulogy predict that it wouldn't be well received, but that is the main reason why he posted it in the first place.

 

[Warlord Of Death]

This forum is full of liberal metalheads, anyone should expect a reaction like that.

 

[Barking Pumpkin]

It doesn't matter if you're liberal or not. It was a stupid fucking statement.....and I'm sure it was intended solely to bother people, so I'm not giving it much thought.

 

[kmik]

Only true Aryan black metal warriors can make art, because if you are not anti-Christian, or sell than 200 copies, you are not an artist.

 

[Warlord Of Death]

It doesn't matter if you're liberal or not. It was a stupid fucking statement.....and I'm sure it was intended solely to bother people, so I'm not giving it much thought.

I consider it more of an opinion....

 

[10293847]

I don't consider this place any more liberal than anus.com. Where anus is heavy on NS philosophies, this place is equally as one-sided, with it's liberalism.

 

[Kenneth R.]

its blatantly pedestrian to dismiss the genre of Jazz as "my pals noise".

anyone who does that is drastically infantile in their understanding of the origins of blues, rock, and metal. to love metal and dismiss jazz is simply pathetic. the extensive contributions of the improvisational and avant-garde nature of jazz have made modern music what it is today. i don't give a fuck what politics you believe in, musically jazz is an integral part of our western music history and to write it off as "my pals noise" strikes me as the kind of tools who know nothing of what they're talking about. whether you listen to jazz or hate it isn't even related to the point. i can't believe people actually think some pale white assholes over in norway came up with metal all on their own. no. they drew inspiration from rock, which drew inspiration from blues, which drew inspiration from and in concert with jazz. jazz has roots in african folk music as does the blues. i won't even start to get into this here because obviously some people don't have a fucking clue.

utter bullshit.

 

[skeptik]

Hey dumbfuck....ugh, I won't even bother. He really knows how to push the right buttons I see.

I agree with most of the points he made, but honestly, it didn't really go anywhere or profess any astounding new philosophy. Hell, it didn't even raise any interesting questions. But it was a good read nonetheless.