New Metallica
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J-Dubya 777
It NEVER ends
Hahaha, good point j-dubs 
For the record, the last few manowar albums have been abysmal. Just because i love a band doesn't mean i can't be critical.
First off, my apologies for the personal insults. I was way out of line on that (ugh... beer dude). However, i stand by exactly what i say. It is metal by definition, but the fact that people are happy with it regardless of genre is mind boggling to me. The songs are not well written at all. They go on forever with no point. And by saying that I expect more out of symphony x fans means that I expect people to be more critical of composition and musicianship. The riffs are poor, the song structure is juvenile at best. If this wasn't a metallica album, I wouldn't be bitching so much about it. And on the flip side, the vast majority of folks would not be listening to this or praising it.
It's just incredibly sad to me to see all these people who are supposed to be seeking out the best of the best in the music world, and these same people are spending time on something this mediocre just because there's a name and good memories attached. Ultimately, no. It's no hair off my nuts if people listen to it. Good for you, enjoy, have fun. I'll go listen to something good and continue to call the release exactly what it is: Bullshit.
For the record, the last few manowar albums have been abysmal. Just because i love a band doesn't mean i can't be critical.First off, my apologies for the personal insults. I was way out of line on that (ugh... beer dude). However, i stand by exactly what i say. It is metal by definition, but the fact that people are happy with it regardless of genre is mind boggling to me. The songs are not well written at all. They go on forever with no point. And by saying that I expect more out of symphony x fans means that I expect people to be more critical of composition and musicianship. The riffs are poor, the song structure is juvenile at best. If this wasn't a metallica album, I wouldn't be bitching so much about it. And on the flip side, the vast majority of folks would not be listening to this or praising it.
It's just incredibly sad to me to see all these people who are supposed to be seeking out the best of the best in the music world, and these same people are spending time on something this mediocre just because there's a name and good memories attached. Ultimately, no. It's no hair off my nuts if people listen to it. Good for you, enjoy, have fun. I'll go listen to something good and continue to call the release exactly what it is: Bullshit.
ABQShredHead
©1970
no denying that.
I'm referring to the use of the word. Tolerance is destroying us.
RiderOfJustice
New Metal Member
While I realize that this is a metal forum, anyone who bases whether or not they like a piece of music on if it fits or how closely it fits into the metal (or any other) genre is mentally deficient. Zach, I realize you were probably drunk when you made the initial post...but come on dude
, you're better than that
. If I (or a few others 'round these parts) were to use that kind of criteria for what they listened to, 90% of my music library would be obliterated. As far as death magnetic goes....I paid $9 for it after hearing it so obviously I don't think it sucks. I can't stand Kirk's lead playing, the drumming, the tremendous amount of autotuning, and the clusterfuck engineering...but other than that stuff I think it's a solid effort overall.
, you're better than that. If I (or a few others 'round these parts) were to use that kind of criteria for what they listened to, 90% of my music library would be obliterated. As far as death magnetic goes....I paid $9 for it after hearing it so obviously I don't think it sucks. I can't stand Kirk's lead playing, the drumming, the tremendous amount of autotuning, and the clusterfuck engineering...but other than that stuff I think it's a solid effort overall.
Detective Clarence Beauregard
Dehumanized
I've heard Death Magnetic several times, and I have to say that my least favorite songs are That Was Just Your Life, The End of the Line, Broken, Beat & Scarred, The Day That Never Comes, All Nightmare Long, Cyanide, The Unforgiven III, The Judas Kiss, Suicide & Redemption, and My Apocalypse.
Great album, though!
Great album, though!
While I realize that this is a metal forum, anyone who bases whether or not they like a piece of music on if it fits or how closely it fits into the metal (or any other) genre is mentally deficient. Zach, I realize you were probably drunk when you made the initial post...but come on dude
here's the thing... I don't give a shit if it's metal or not. That's missing the point entirely. The fact is that it's a bad album. I know there are some redeeming qualities to some folks, like the fact that it is a return to the metal style after the last 3 albums. The fact that it's metal again does not make it good. At all.
Yep, was drunk, but other than the personal insults (which, again, I know better than that. That was dumb) i stand by everything i said 100%, my opinion still stands. I would say that any place and any time.
Maybe I didn't word myself correctly...what I was getting at is that your post reeked of the ever-so-typical metal elitism that is way too common in the metal community and is why I rarely associate myself with the crowd, if ever. (note: not trying to be hostile right now...just clarifying)
progmetaldan
Member
Do I win because I haven't heard a single note from the new Metallica, and have no desire to care either way? Sure I'll probably hear something of it further down the track, for research purposes only of course, but other than that the best way to sum up my view on this is: "meh"
Iced Dog
The Stormrider's Pooch
Oooh, like the Pete Townshend style of "research"...I see
Zach, are friends of yours liking Death Magnetic...is that the reason for this war you've been waging?
noble savage
Member
progmetaldan
Member
I'll loose will I? 
Don't worry, it shall not be intentional...
@ Pete Townshend style research: Nay...
Don't worry, it shall not be intentional...
@ Pete Townshend style research: Nay...
ABQShredHead
©1970
I was forced to listen to one of the songs at the top of every hour when my buddy and I made an afternoon beer store visit during work. I guess that'll learn us.
mark b
Prog 4 ever. Australia!!!
You win, but i'm a close second
Justice for all was their last good album. I will not be listening.
SilentRealm
Member
not that my opinion matters. i only decided to go to youtube and check it out because zachs post was so against it. so here are my thoughts: metal? no i wouldnt really consider it that, maybe heavy rock at most? however, do metallica even refer to themselves as a metal band anymore? last i heard they were calling themselves a rock band, so if that's the case then it is fitting. there might be guitar solos but they're quite basic, not very tight musicianship at all, and his vocals are mediocre. yes it is mediocrity so i agree with zach, BUT, its not unlistenable as long as you take it in the context that i feel it's meant to be. i'm not defending them coz i think they're huge tools, but i don't think they're anything to get worked up about. if people start being all like 'zomg teh n00 metallica iz teh most br00tal eva!' then i'll tell them to go listen to real music, but no one has done that to me yet, so whatever.
I'm pretty sure they are calling it metal. They want a return to the "old sound". Look at their recent setlists... i can't remember if it's nothing or maybe 1 song from load, reload and st anger. They're using the old logo, trying to use the old sound, etc.
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