New Queensryche Streaming
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AngraRULES
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Justin G
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It's decent, but kind of boring. It didn't make it past the "background noise" stage for me until the last couple of songs.
KingsGene
God of Thunder
I am a little underwhelmed. Feels like they had a few songs and stretched it into an album. I understand the need to get to market with the lawsuit stuff.
However, at only thirty something minutes, a couple atmospheric tracks, a few fillers, it feels more like an ep release. I think they really needed more time and material.
To compound things, in my iTunes library, as soon as it finished playing, it jumped into the next QR album alphabetically that i have, Rage for Order. Just not in the same league. Not a fair comparison, but still.
Again, there are some good songs (Dreams, Open Road, etc), but needs more work.
Interested to see the next release with hopefully more time and less pressure on Todd to sound just like Geoff.
Just my thoughts..
Rick..
However, at only thirty something minutes, a couple atmospheric tracks, a few fillers, it feels more like an ep release. I think they really needed more time and material.
To compound things, in my iTunes library, as soon as it finished playing, it jumped into the next QR album alphabetically that i have, Rage for Order. Just not in the same league. Not a fair comparison, but still.
Again, there are some good songs (Dreams, Open Road, etc), but needs more work.
Interested to see the next release with hopefully more time and less pressure on Todd to sound just like Geoff.
Just my thoughts..
Rick..
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MEGALOUD
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Don't misunderstand... it's possible I may like the new disc. The fact of the matter, every year my Top 10 is populated by bands who aren't Queensryche. Even in their prime, Queensryche only occupied one spot in my annual Top 10. This disc would merely be one more by a band who isn't Queensryche.
Greg... seriously? Not QR? CoverReich? with three of the members, I'd say they qualify more than the alternative, they certainly sound authentic to my ears. But perhaps it's just nostalgia for me. I like the new album, but you're right in saying it doesn't take much for these guys to shine as compared with their output for the last 15 years or more. That said, Todd sounds killer, yes he's covering Tate...no question, but that clearly is intended.
General Zod
Ruler of Australia
Lance... I call them this for three reasons. One, they not only lost their two lead players, but their two primary songwriters. You take that away from any band and it's not the same band. To use a perfect example, is it really Pyramaze without you and Michael? Urban is one of my favorite vocalists, and I would love to see him do something with the other guys from Pyramaze because I think they're a very a talented crew and I think they'd put out a quality album. But is that really Pyramaze? Secondly, when people go to see one of the bands from their youth, they're primarily going to hear the original lead singer and guitar player. Let's face it, no one is going to ask for their money back if they showed up to see Ratt and Juan Croucier wasn't there. But does anyone have any interest in Skid Row without Sebastian? Finally, Todd LaTorre, although a very talented vocalist, is a complete Geoff clone. Perhaps that's intended, but it does nothing to stifle my claim. He brings nothing to the table in terms of originality. And that's what you look for in a good tribute band; a band that isn't the original band, but who sounds just like the original band.
As for the new album, I'm happy to say it bores me. I was worried there for a bit, as I heard a few good reviews. So, I decided to attempt to set aside my preconceived notions and just listen. It's mediocre... at best.
Let's start with the obvious, we're all posting to this thread because Queensryche was one of our favorite Progressive Metal bands. This release is not Progressive, and it's not Metal. It rarely gets above a mid-tempo beat. Second, there's nothing on this album that should ever be in their set list. Five years from now, no one is going to be screaming out to hear one of these songs at one of their shows, over vastly superior options from their golden age. And isn't that what we're all fans of... the golden age (EP - Promise Land)? And when compared to those first six releases, this disc is seventh (at best), and seventh by a wide, wide margin. Sure, after listening to them shit the bed for 20 years, it's welcoming that they can make it to the toilet to relieve themselves. But it's only by the measuring stick of Tribe and Hear in the New Frontier by which this can be considered a quality Queensryche release.
I know, I know... all those faithful souls who have clung to the Queensryche bandwagon this long for a sip of nostalgia will rejoice in the fact that this is better than Q2K and tell me I'm a curmudgeonly fanboy. Fair enough, and to each their own. However, to those people I say, wake me at year end and tell me this disc doesn't have three months of dust on it.
Zod has a great point. Would Judas Priest be Priest if they had lost both Halford and Tipton? What would Maiden be if they lost Harris and Dickinson? I'm just glad that Black Star Riders opted for this name instead of pushing forward as Thin Lizzy, cuz you're sure as hell not Thin Lizzy without Phil Lynott.....you would be a Lizzy cover band. I guess this can translate to Queensryche too.
Only because it's Queensryche, is this album bring out the harsh critics.....
I mean if one didn't know it was Queensryche, people would be posting about this new hard rock melodic band with an awesome singer, and people would be raving about the vocalist like crazy!!....
I know, it's hard not to think of them as Queensryche since they kept the name, but I think I can enjoy them more because I don't look at them as being QR, I just look at the new album as a decent hard rock album with some good catchy melodic hooks.....
I mean if one didn't know it was Queensryche, people would be posting about this new hard rock melodic band with an awesome singer, and people would be raving about the vocalist like crazy!!....
I know, it's hard not to think of them as Queensryche since they kept the name, but I think I can enjoy them more because I don't look at them as being QR, I just look at the new album as a decent hard rock album with some good catchy melodic hooks.....
General Zod
Ruler of Australia
Couldn't agree more.
And I would argue, only because it's Queensryche is the album bringing out the positive critics. Whenever I read reviews on new albums by classic bands, it seems the band is typically granted the first two stars (if we're talking about a 5 Star rating system) for free, based on legacy and nostalgia. And this album is no different. To my ears the whole disc just sort of meanders, occasionally rising above mediocrity, occasionally falling below, but mostly it's just not that interesting. For me, there isn't a single track here that has a "wow" factor.
As we all know, music is completely subjective. That said, I'll be interested to hear how many people are still reaching for this disc is six months.
Yea, I can understand what you are saying. Although music is the ear of the beholder and unlike what you are hearing, I hear plenty of hooks on this album...
Also, I just think that it's extremely difficult for a band such as QR to recapture the magic and create a masterpiece like Operation Mindcrime or Rage For Order at this time..... I just don't think they have that kind of energy and creativity now that they are in their 50s I believe.....
So I take that in to effect when I critique an album.
Bear
Got Shred??
All I have to say is that I really like it and I think Todd's vocal performance is outstanding! There is an obvious lack of the virtuosity on guitars but the over full band vibe is pretty damn good and there is a ambiance that hearkens back to the RFO / OM days, imo
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General Zod
Ruler of Australia
It is such a personal thing, with little rhyme or reason. We just all like what we like.
It does seem to be the case for (many) musicians, that as they age their creativity dips. However, I approach music with a "what have you done for me lately" attitude. The fact that QR can no longer recapture that magic, is not my problem as a listener. I'll happily go listen to some no-name band of twenty somethings who do have that energy.
Agreed... the guitar playing is lackluster, and Todd's performance is good (albeit completely unoriginal). I'm not feeling the RFO/OMc vibe. Empire/PL, yes. But the earlier stuff was edgier and more aggressive.
As far as Todd's voice sounding unoriginal, that's true, but you can say that about a TON of progmetal singers out there.... I don't really compare him to Tate, because as we all know, nobody could touch Tate in his prime....However with that said, I think Todd had to sound like Tate somewhat in order for the to effectively cover the QR back catalog on tour like they are doing....Plus, remember that Tate isn't singing like this anymore so it's okay to sound like him
...If Tate was still an effective singer hitting those high notes, it would be different, but he can't.....Another thing is that I think the next QR effort has a good chance of being quite a bit better than this latest release. Keep in mind that they turned this cd out incredibly fast after just getting together(hence the super short album length). . I think they just wanted to give the fans something to chew on while they work together on a new one.....I mean, they knew that Tate's QR would be releasing one quick as well. Now that they got that out of the way, they can really take some time and get creative and brainstorm some ideas, and I think with Todd at the helm, he could lead them to do so...
Oblivion Ocean
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I dunno, with bands like Queensryche and Dream Theater there is so much history in communities like these there is a tendency to over-analyze their work (which I have been guilty of in the past). People are right, I guess for some people the enjoyment of this album is whether you compare it to Rage for Order or Q2K. I have kinda stopped doing all that and just measure my enjoyment by the number of plays it gets. There are some bands that I say I like and in my mind I do enjoy their music, but when I look at how often I actually spun their new album it is not that high. Other bands in my mind I think are just "pretty good" but then I look at how many times I listen to the album and I am surprised.
Having said all of that, I have been listening to this a ton. I am surprised how many of the songs get stuck in my head. So others can figure out if this is "actual" QR, or if it recaptures some magic of a long gone era. But I can say in June 2013 I am really enjoying this.
Having said all of that, I have been listening to this a ton. I am surprised how many of the songs get stuck in my head. So others can figure out if this is "actual" QR, or if it recaptures some magic of a long gone era. But I can say in June 2013 I am really enjoying this.
AngraRULES
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General Zod
Ruler of Australia
Agreed on most points. However, I don't think he had to sound exactly like classic era Geoff on the new disc. Granted, I give him kudos for being able to approximate Geoff so well. But I would have preferred they went with a talented vocalist, and just kept the other band name.As far as Todd's voice sounding unoriginal, that's true, but you can say that about a TON of progmetal singers out there.... I don't really compare him to Tate, because as we all know, nobody could touch Tate in his prime....However with that said, I think Todd had to sound like Tate somewhat in order for the to effectively cover the QR back catalog on tour like they are doing....Plus, remember that Tate isn't singing like this anymore so it's okay to sound like him
Perhaps. There's no telling how they might gel. That said, Todd has never demonstrated a writing ability, and Michael was never QR's primary guy. I think a lot of folks speculated that Michael had all these classic era QR riffs just lying around, that Geoff's tyranny had prevented him from rolling out. I'll be surprised if we get a significantly better effort next time around. And realistically, how many guys can write great metal in their 50s?
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