new to metal need some guidance

[Elric of Melniboné]

No.

 

[EspaDa]

A pity no one recommended him some Devourment, dISEMBOWELMENT or Portal since they are all great bands he should listen to (despite the fact that he's barely into metal already).

 

[EspaDa]

Go and listen to Trivium man. That's a natural transition.

 

[NorseBlood]

@albaraa You have many good suggestions here. My taste tends towards the power end of the spectrum, so let me add these bands to the list:

Accept, Sabaton, Nightwish, Savatage, Jon Oliva's Pain
Stratovarius, Yngwie Malmsteen, Angra, Anthem, Hammerfall
Iced Earth, Angel Dust, Kamelot, Voyager, Evergrey
Ensiferum, Edguy, Judas Priest, Korpiklaani, Votum
Riverside, Helloween, Ordan Ogan, Need, Myrath
Grave Digger, Ghost Ship Octavius, Dragonforce, Blind Guardian
Black Label Society, Dragonland, Overkill, Manimal, Iron Maiden

Finally, these web sites are really good resources for metallers of all ages:

http://www.metal-archives.com/
http://www.blabbermouth.net/
http://bravewords.com/home
https://skullbanger.net/
http://teamrock.com/metal-hammer
http://www.metalunderground.com/

\m/

 

[Talos of Atmora]

Yngwie Malmsteen

 

[Vilden]

Which ones are the fillers?

Testament, Overkill, Artillery, Witchfinder General, Accept, Riot, Dokken, Ratt, Twisted Sister, Primal Fear, Obituary, Ozzy Osbourne, Alcatrazz, Loudness, Budgie, Gorgoroth, Anthem, X Japan, Flower Travellin' Band, Stryper, Nuclear Assault, Scorpions, Sodom, Tankard, Holy Moses, Dark Angel, Death Angel, Dark Funeral, Grim Reaper, Pretty Maids, Iced Earth, Maniac Butcher, 1349, Vulcano, Sepultura, Inquisition, Flotsam and Jetsam, Onslaught, Root, Annihilator, Sacred Reich, Impaled Nazarene, KISS, Emperor, Armored Saint, Quartz, U.D.O., Stormwitch, Razor, Hour of 13, Wolf, Rammstein, Pantera, Halford, Judas Iscariot, UFO, Atrophy, Spellcaster, Bullet, Enforcer, Bulldozer, Sabbat (U.K.), Carpathian Forest, Angel Corpse,

The list would probably be longer if I had heard every band on the list.

 

[Phylactery]

Overkill, Artillery, Witchfinder General, Obituary, Gorgoroth, Scorpions, Riot, Sodom, Impaled Nazarene (first album), Maniac Butcher, Sepultura, Inquisition, Root and Emperor are definitely not filler bands. What the fuck.

 

[Vilden]

Overkill, Artillery, Witchfinder General, Obituary, Gorgoroth, Scorpions, Riot, Sodom, Impaled Nazarene (first album), Maniac Butcher, Sepultura, Inquisition, Root and Emperor are definitely not filler bands. What the fuck.

I guess you could make a case for Overkill, early Emperor, early Sodom and maybe Root.

I own albums by alot of those bands and I don't consder them bad or anything, but in a thread where you recommend bands to a brand new metalhead, bands like Witchfinder General, Impaled Nazarene, Inquisition or Artillery are at best tier 3.

 

[Vilden]

None of the bands he listed are filler. He may not personally care for them, but that doesn't render them filler.

Bands like Judas Iscariot and Hour of 13 are like the definition of filler...

 

[CiG]

Okay, I hear you @Vilden. I agree, recommending something like ImpNaz to a newbie is pretty crazy.

Unless by filler you mean they're between average and shit, then I disagree and put a curse on you and your whole family.

 

[Vilden]

In what way? Because they aren't some undisputed classic standard bearer?

Because 1. They are mediocre, 2. They are utterly unimportant for metal history or influence, 3. They are American.

 

[Vilden]

You actually think Judas Iscariot is a great band that is an important part of metal history and had a big influence on the scene?

You're probably the first...

 

[Elric of Melniboné]

Influence is not my point of contention, but if you insist.

What is your point and why does it involve posting pictures of goofy looking skulls?

 

[CiG]

Judas Iscariot are the definition of pedestrian black metal, so actually it's not that retarded to recommend them to a newb.

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

I feel they're a good band with interesting music. Degree of influence doesn't necessarily add or detract from music's quality.

So, if you whittled your list down to a quarter of what you have now, would you keep those aforementioned bands?

Judas Iscariot are the definition of pedestrian black metal, so actually it's not that retarded to recommend them to a newb.

The fact that they are pedestrian makes them a bad choice to win over a neophyte to the ways of black metal.

 

[no country for old wainds]

this is all moot because reading this shit has put the guy off metal for life

 

[Talos of Atmora]

this is all moot because reading this shit has put the guy off metal for life

If that's the case, how is it that we've lasted this long?

 

[CiG]

They're (don't know why I'm using "they", it's one guy, but fuck it) more so just a traditionalist outfit in my mind, if you wanna call it "pedestrian", so be it.

I agree, traditionalist, but you can be traditional and also make the style your own subtly. I don't think Judas Iscariot did, but just to be clear I am a fan.

 

[CiG]

Eh, I get a unique vibe from them, but hey, whatever. Good stuff in the end, regardless.

You do? Fair enough.

 

[Baroque]

ITT someone called obituary and ozzy filler bands