new to metal need some guidance

[H.P. Lovecraft]

I guess you could make a case for Overkill, early Emperor, early Sodom and maybe Root.

I own albums by alot of those bands and I don't consder them bad or anything, but in a thread where you recommend bands to a brand new metalhead, bands like Witchfinder General, Impaled Nazarene, Inquisition or Artillery are at best tier 3.

That's not filler, that's called giving him something beyond the obvious.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Bands like Judas Iscariot and Hour of 13 are like the definition of filler...

In what way? Because they aren't some undisputed classic standard bearer?

 

[CiG]

Okay, I hear you @Vilden. I agree, recommending something like ImpNaz to a newbie is pretty crazy.

Unless by filler you mean they're between average and shit, then I disagree and put a curse on you and your whole family.

 

[Vilden]

In what way? Because they aren't some undisputed classic standard bearer?

Because 1. They are mediocre, 2. They are utterly unimportant for metal history or influence, 3. They are American.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Because 1. They are mediocre, 2. They are utterly unimportant for metal history or influence, 3. They are American.

I see. By the way, didn't know they had your grandfather's remains uploaded to Google Images:

 

[Vilden]

You actually think Judas Iscariot is a great band that is an important part of metal history and had a big influence on the scene?

You're probably the first...

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

You actually think Judas Iscariot is a great band that is an important part of metal history and had a big influence on the scene?

You're probably the first...

Influence is not my point of contention, but if you insist.

 

[Elric of Melniboné]

Influence is not my point of contention, but if you insist.

What is your point and why does it involve posting pictures of goofy looking skulls?

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

What is your point and why does it involve posting pictures of goofy looking skulls?

I feel they're a good band with interesting music. Degree of influence doesn't necessarily add or detract from music's quality. The weird skull in question is that of a cro magnon man.

 

[CiG]

Judas Iscariot are the definition of pedestrian black metal, so actually it's not that retarded to recommend them to a newb.

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

I feel they're a good band with interesting music. Degree of influence doesn't necessarily add or detract from music's quality.

So, if you whittled your list down to a quarter of what you have now, would you keep those aforementioned bands?

Judas Iscariot are the definition of pedestrian black metal, so actually it's not that retarded to recommend them to a newb.

The fact that they are pedestrian makes them a bad choice to win over a neophyte to the ways of black metal.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Judas Iscariot are the definition of pedestrian black metal, so actually it's not that retarded to recommend them to a newb.

They're (don't know why I'm using "they", it's one guy, but fuck it) more so just a traditionalist outfit in my mind, if you wanna call it "pedestrian", so be it.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

So, if you whittled your list down to a quarter of what you have now, would you keep those aforementioned bands?

No, because I'd have to get choosy. They're not essential, but they're not filler. I'm not just putting them there for the sake of putting them there, I find their music authentically interesting and worthwhile. So, why not let someone else give them a shot? If they like them, great, if not, oh well. It also depends on if by "aforementioned" you mean that whole selection Vilden rattled off.

 

[no country for old wainds]

this is all moot because reading this shit has put the guy off metal for life

 

[Talos of Atmora]

this is all moot because reading this shit has put the guy off metal for life

If that's the case, how is it that we've lasted this long?

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

this is all moot because reading this shit has put the guy off metal for life

He figured out that the music isn't worth dealing with gaggles of insufferable, hyper-argumentative cuntflaps like us.

 

[CiG]

They're (don't know why I'm using "they", it's one guy, but fuck it) more so just a traditionalist outfit in my mind, if you wanna call it "pedestrian", so be it.

I agree, traditionalist, but you can be traditional and also make the style your own subtly. I don't think Judas Iscariot did, but just to be clear I am a fan.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

I agree, traditionalist, but you can be traditional and also make the style your own subtly. I don't think Judas Iscariot did, but just to be clear I am a fan.

Eh, I get a unique vibe from them, but hey, whatever. Good stuff in the end, regardless.

 

[CiG]

Eh, I get a unique vibe from them, but hey, whatever. Good stuff in the end, regardless.

You do? Fair enough.

 

[Baroque]

ITT someone called obituary and ozzy filler bands