Next Tranquillity album

[Taliesin]

I understand "A Heart that beats the wrong way" as love felt for the wrong person

 

[La Rocque]

Maybe they should try something completely different
say like Opeth's 'damnation', just to shake things up
Please oh please don't try to recapture the past -

 

[Magrathean]

The funny thing about this thread is that it's nearly impossible to accurately describe a hypothetical style we'd like to hear without saying "similar to [insert band/album here]" -- and Dark Tranquillity is "famous" for never resembling other bands (i.e. they're totally original).

 

[La Rocque]

^ you can say that but I took a friend to the Dark Tranquillity, Soilwork,
Hypocrisy, Mnemic + others and her comment was
"All these bands sound the same"

 

[TheFourthHorseman]

and Dark Tranquillity is "famous" for never resembling other bands (i.e. they're totally original).

Hoho. That's a laugh. They might be better (and even that is purely subjective) than most (or all) bands that sound more or less similar, but never resembling other bands? Totally original?

 

[Magrathean]

Other bands copy their style. I've never heard of Tranquillity copying other styles.

I never said they didn't sound similar to other bands. I only said it's the other bands that copy Tranquillity and not the other way around.

 

[TheFourthHorseman]

Well, if they resemble another band then that implies that they sound similar. Pure linguistics now that you've explained yourself, but just saying...
Nevertheless, saying that they're totally original is stupid. At The Gates + Iron Maiden=Dark Tranquillity, if you want to be simple about it.

 

[Magrathean]

Okay, i believe i should make myself clear on this:

I know there's a whole heap of black metal bands and another heap of speed metal bands (and you can classify DT's music as any kind of metal you want and there's always going to be a whole heap of bands that play the same sub-genre). I also know In Flames, At The Gates and DT have a lot of things in common (the three of them invented the "Goteborg sound" together). What i was trying to say is the following: DT releases "Haven", and it's not like it's a copy of some other album by some other band (i haven't heard every single album by every single band, of course, but i'm pretty sure i can say there isn't another album that sounds just like "Haven"). Then DT releases "Damage", and same shit. And the same happens with "Lost" and "Character". That's what i meant by 'original'. So i think i'm on the safe side if i say DT's next album will probably be original.

I've heard (read on the internet, actually) a couple of bands say that their music is "similar to DT" or "a blend of DT, [band2] and [band3]", but i've never heard/read DT saying that their music is similar to [band]'s music.

 

[Dafne]

Well, if they resemble another band then that implies that they sound similar. Pure linguistics now that you've explained yourself, but just saying...
Nevertheless, saying that they're totally original is stupid. At The Gates + Iron Maiden=Dark Tranquillity, if you want to be simple about it.

???ok then go back in times and say that Chuck Berry is the base for everything!!!!
When I was a kid and loved (ok I still love them until Powerslave) Iron Maiden the old metalheads said that we kids were deaf in not hearing Iron Maiden=Deep Purple. I swear I don't agree yet and never won't probably, but then (for example) when "beneath the remains" from sepultura was released me and my friends found every riffs similar to other ones, from testament to anthrax metallica and so on...but we liked a lot anyway and one cannot deny sepultura created a new genre...also bad religion did it, but their first album sounded like a ramones one. and about DT tell me if Iron Maiden have ever played a song with those odd (I mean not only 4/4) beats and time changing that DT did, just for instance. I think DT is really original and complicated in their songs structure (The Gallery stands for all IMO) while At The Gates are more linear.
Of course this is a discussion with no ending imo cos music is an emotion, so we can spend all our time saying what we want...

 

[Magrathean]

Thank you. =)

I'm giving out jobs as people who say the stuff i think better than i can say it myself. You interested, Dafne?

 

[Dafne]

Thank you. =)

I'm giving out jobs as people who say the stuff i think better than i can say it myself. You interested, Dafne?

hehehehe, it depends on...what's the wage/salary?

 

[Magrathean]

Um... permission to download any 3 songs from me each day? =P

 

[wildfyr]

That's the beauty of Tranquillity's lyrics: they mean something different to each fan.

I'll agree with that. In your opinion why do you think that is so? I'm listening to Damage Done atm and I'm thinking: screw the fantasy lyrics. Maybe the bitter, angry, (reality-based) track will work better in 2006?

Encouraging on the negative scale. (??)
Nullify importance...
The nail that never sticks...

 

[Magrathean]

Well, ambiguity helps. The fact that they're not explicit allows for different interpretations ("Hours passed in exile" is almost an exception, but hopefully you get my point).

True, 2005 and 2006 (and probably 2007, and i don't think we'll be seeing a new Tranquillity album in 2006, although hopefully i'm wrong) seem to call for more anger and violence, but i don't see why a blend between "The gallery" (the album), "Insanity's" and "Haven" wouldn't work just as well or even better.

 

[TheFourthHorseman]

and about DT tell me if Iron Maiden have ever played a song with those odd (I mean not only 4/4) beats and time changing that DT did, just for instance. I think DT is really original and complicated in their songs structure (The Gallery stands for all IMO) while At The Gates are more linear.

Durrrr.
That's not even the point. Why get into details like that, when I said 'if you want to be simple about it'? Maiden is very melodic, At The Gates is most things that DT were/are. Sure, DT's song structures are generally more complex, but so are often Maiden's compared to At The Gates. And again, that's entirely besides the point.

???ok then go back in times and say that Chuck Berry is the base for everything!!!!

Which is why I don't think anyone should say that a band is 'totally original'. There's not really a point in tracing back what band influenced what sort of music, I agree that much, but, again, calling a band totally original is bullshit or bad use of words.

 

[Nyx]

An album which give pleasure to my hears like they ever made from Of Chaos and Eternal Night until now

I know they never will disappoint me

 

[Magrathean]

In their words, they're going for "more extreme than the last album" each time they release something new (Damage is "more extreme" than Haven, and Character is "more extreme" than Damage). Wonder what "more extreme than Character" means.

 

[Villain]

In their words, they're going for "more extreme than the last album" each time they release something new (Damage is "more extreme" than Haven, and Character is "more extreme" than Damage). Wonder what "more extreme than Character" means.

Well, at this point I should perhaps remind you that shortly after The Mind's I was released, some of the band-members told in some interview that the next album would probably be a lot more extreme.

And they came up with Projector.

So, my advice is to take everything that has been and will be said about this subject with a grain of salt, at least until the next album is actually recorded.

-Villain

 

[GONE Ridin' Hood]

Well, what I hope the next album to have is more clear vocals, and more female vocals (kinda like in Undo Control).

I would really, really love some vocal duo of Mikael (whatever voice) and a women (any ).

Also, that they don't leave behind the electronics (it's kinda obvious they won't).

More keyboard solos.

Also, that the lyrics be more poethic and kinda romantic.

But still, I guess the album won't be much like the others, they always innovate.

 

[Kovenant84]

Heh, that's usually the one thing you can count on with DT. They'll always surprise us in the end

~kov.