Yes, we don't know how Ale contributed to it. All that's unique about that song really is the keyboard, and the interlude melody or whatever it is. On the rhythm guitar there's pretty much just this basic power chord going on jumping from fret to fret (just tried it today). And the song is not distinquishable to the rest of the album's songs, so yeah it's possible Ale didn't do much about it but what do we know.
Northern Comfort or Lobodomy?
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Yes, we don't know how Ale contributed to it. All that's unique about that song really is the keyboard, and the interlude melody or whatever it is. On the rhythm guitar there's pretty much just this basic power chord going on jumping from fret to fret (just tried it today). And the song is not distinquishable to the rest of the album's songs, so yeah it's possible Ale didn't do much about it but what do we know.
A guitar player isn't made JUST by his skills. His mood, his style, his role in the band, his songwriting, his note selection. Take Malmsteen, take Vai. Amazingly skilled musicians who have written some amazingly shitty songs.
So, mine was as an answer to people saying that Ale was not fit because he was fat, because he wasn't cool like Roope. This is stupid.
you are not very clever I see,
what music besides COB do you listen to?
Any non-techical music?
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I've thought about that too. I think for example that cool melody in Punainen Viiva is probably by Ale. Obviously he had a lot of freedom for that album because he should be masses better guitarist than the other dude. But the album was HUGE letdown and nowhere near the previous stuff of Timo and Niskalaukaus (probably because the latter wasn't around anymore). But the album's got some nice riffs I think are Ale's. Not sure if I remember but there was a song (Pesäpallomaila) that had a nice riff.
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@Rayden: I'm not clever because I like new COB and I consider that a guitar player is made by his skills and the way he applies them? Wow, good guess dude! You could be the next Sherlock Holmes!
Non technical music? Inside metal f.e. Destruction, Kylähullut, Iron Maiden, Slayer,... Outside metal The Corrs, The Dubliners, The Chieftains, Dire Straits, soundtracks from movies, Garth Brooks, Cirque Du Soleil (especially Alegria), Riverdance, irish folk in general, some Coldplay (can't stand a full Cd but they have cool songs)...
Anything else Mr. If You Don't Think Like Me You're Wrong?
I highly doubt anyone with brains would say that. We've only said that Roope is way better guitar player than him, not that he fits better because he's cooler or less fat.
But you can't deny that Roope's mood, style, role in the band and especially songrwiting (what has Ale written? Roope has 4 cool Stone albums and 2 amazing Sinergy albums plus various stuff with Waltari, besides some cool solos with COB) and note selection (Roope fills COB songs with loads of cool licks he comes up with while Ale always played the same things as on the album with really small variations) are better than Ale's.
Non technical music? Inside metal f.e. Destruction, Kylähullut, Iron Maiden, Slayer,... Outside metal The Corrs, The Dubliners, The Chieftains, Dire Straits, soundtracks from movies, Garth Brooks, Cirque Du Soleil (especially Alegria), Riverdance, irish folk in general, some Coldplay (can't stand a full Cd but they have cool songs)...
Anything else Mr. If You Don't Think Like Me You're Wrong?
I highly doubt anyone with brains would say that. We've only said that Roope is way better guitar player than him, not that he fits better because he's cooler or less fat.
But you can't deny that Roope's mood, style, role in the band and especially songrwiting (what has Ale written? Roope has 4 cool Stone albums and 2 amazing Sinergy albums plus various stuff with Waltari, besides some cool solos with COB) and note selection (Roope fills COB songs with loads of cool licks he comes up with while Ale always played the same things as on the album with really small variations) are better than Ale's.
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Come to an end dudes. Roope is better - point. Alexi said that Roope is one of his idols. DId he ever said that Ale was his musical idol? Alexi got a lot of his style copied from Roope - did he ever copied sth. from Ale? Who's better - Alexi or Roope? Both are at the same level. Is Ale better than Alexi or on the same level? No, so nothing more to say.
What some think or what illusions they've created in their minds avid of evidence isn't necessarily the reality.
It would be stupid to say that Ale is a better guitar player than Roope putting their abilities to shred, play rhythm, compose or solo side by side. Of course Roope is a better guitarist. But what can be argued is that who is or was actually the better guitar player for COB. I guess no one here thinks that all the best musicians in one band automatically equals the best band in the world.
There are many reasons why many COB fans were shocked and felt like that "COB can be no more" when Ale announced that he would leave the band. Somehow the band was such a solid unit and the magic was broken, it was basically impossible to imagine anyone else in his shoes. He was Alexi's best friend and a very important member of the group even though he was replacable in terms of his guitar playing skills only. Yeah, you can't see him in COBTV episodes or Trashed & Lost in Helsinki vids, and a large part of the interviews he gave were in Finnish.. but I honestly think that you just don't know your shit if you don't think that he was a really cool personality, in my opinion maybe the funniest member in the band at the time he decided to leave.
As much as I love Roope (he was the only person in the world I could even somewhat imagine 'accepting' to replace Ale back then), I can't help to think sometimes what Bodom would sound like or where they would be if he hadn't decided to let the band go and the same bunch of friends would have just kept rolling 'til the end. Somehow it's quite hard to imagine Ale in a band as big as COB are today. He was somehow so down to earth and in a way old-fashioned that it would make a great comedy show to see what he would be like as a really famous rockstar. I would imagine that the band growing bigger and bigger was a factor that somehow stressed him and maybe partly influenced his decision to leave. I can't really say that I miss Ale anymore as the band has already left all that behind and moved on.
I think Jussi69 (The 69 Eyes) put it the best: "I'm a really, really shitty drummer, but I'm the best The 69 Eyes drummer in the whole fuckin´ world."
There are many reasons why many COB fans were shocked and felt like that "COB can be no more" when Ale announced that he would leave the band. Somehow the band was such a solid unit and the magic was broken, it was basically impossible to imagine anyone else in his shoes. He was Alexi's best friend and a very important member of the group even though he was replacable in terms of his guitar playing skills only. Yeah, you can't see him in COBTV episodes or Trashed & Lost in Helsinki vids, and a large part of the interviews he gave were in Finnish.. but I honestly think that you just don't know your shit if you don't think that he was a really cool personality, in my opinion maybe the funniest member in the band at the time he decided to leave.
As much as I love Roope (he was the only person in the world I could even somewhat imagine 'accepting' to replace Ale back then), I can't help to think sometimes what Bodom would sound like or where they would be if he hadn't decided to let the band go and the same bunch of friends would have just kept rolling 'til the end. Somehow it's quite hard to imagine Ale in a band as big as COB are today. He was somehow so down to earth and in a way old-fashioned that it would make a great comedy show to see what he would be like as a really famous rockstar. I would imagine that the band growing bigger and bigger was a factor that somehow stressed him and maybe partly influenced his decision to leave. I can't really say that I miss Ale anymore as the band has already left all that behind and moved on.
I think Jussi69 (The 69 Eyes) put it the best: "I'm a really, really shitty drummer, but I'm the best The 69 Eyes drummer in the whole fuckin´ world."
My former best buddy who in a way helped me get into COB around 2000 / 2001 has not been interested in the music at all or what's going on for over three years or so. He says he's calmed down or something. Ale likewise contributed to COB for the time he wanted, then grew tired of the whole thing as he noticed it wasn't what he wanted to do anymore. Those were some fun days, but past is past.
Yep, I agree. I haven't listenning to that album a long time though. There small interview in Soundi back then where Ale commented that it was nice to have freedom at studio and that he likes it how guitarist can sound different in Timo Rautianen's band (compared to COB where both were sounding alike).
Wow definitely didn't think some one would managed to bring Jussi69 to this discussion
. But great post Shadeg. I have never ever had anything against Ale, I think he suited Cob perfectly fine. My preference to Roope as a guitarist goes way back to stone age. And that's why I just love to see him playing at one of my favorite bands.
Thank you Shadeg.
Roope is a guitar virtuoso. I don't like his style. It is silly to compare two different Bodom songs, and these two guitar players from two different eras of the band.
But affirming that Ale could not play some Sinergy stuff wich Roope can is simply stupid. C'mon people check out the tube, there's shitload of guitarist who can play perfectly everything and you still think that Ale can't? Please don't underrate him. And, by the way, believe me or not he was much cleaner than Alexi when i saw them live.
(and by the way Alexi keeps getting worse)
goodbye.
Roope is a guitar virtuoso. I don't like his style. It is silly to compare two different Bodom songs, and these two guitar players from two different eras of the band.
But affirming that Ale could not play some Sinergy stuff wich Roope can is simply stupid. C'mon people check out the tube, there's shitload of guitarist who can play perfectly everything and you still think that Ale can't? Please don't underrate him. And, by the way, believe me or not he was much cleaner than Alexi when i saw them live.
(and by the way Alexi keeps getting worse)
goodbye.
They say you build your own reputation, but Ale hasn't really done much, other than play the stuff that a shitload of guitarists on tube can play... My point is not to underrate Alexander. And I'd like to remind once again about what Alexi told about the differences in regards to working with Ale to working with Roope.
Maybe the rhythm stuff is easier to play and he doesn't have to sing while doing it. Or what are you really suggesting? Amid all this conversation people are forgetting Ale is not even really interested in the metal scene anymore. He chose family instead of touring with what many consider the best band in the world and making the most kickass music. I respect that decision. But it puts Ale < Roope.
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Since we are talking about Alexander and left the actual topic:
Does Ale still get money from the pre AYDY albums which are sold nowadays?
Does Ale still get money from the pre AYDY albums which are sold nowadays?
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Well...even if i like lobodomy...northern comfort is a better song...i love that fucking interlude
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