Nostradamus finally leaked.

[ElectricWiz]

I like it more and more. I hope people will give it a chance.

It's a risky record, and it requires a willingness to let Priest be a bit different than their norm, but the more I listen, the more I'm convinced its a real acheivement.

If nothing else, they've certainly caused some controversy of sorts, as people seem to love or hate it, few in betweens.

 

[kuier]

This is actually starting to grow on me. haven't listened to Act II yet but will get there eventually. Epic.

 

[sixxswine]

It's still a selfindulgent, slick, bloated record that falls way short of the hype...

 

[IWP]

Just listened to the whole album last night. I hate to say this, but this is probably Priest's worse album. It's even worse than Point of Entry and Demolition. Though, it's not a bad album, it's just pretty fucking boring.

 

[Wyvern]

Just listened to the whole album last night. I hate to say this, but this is probably Priest's worse album. It's even worse than Point of Entry and Demolition. Though, it's not a bad album, it's just pretty fucking boring.

I agree word by word with your post, it´s exactly how I feel about it.

 

[Alteredmindeath]

It's not bad, it could of had more crazy fast aggressive tracks, but for being a tale of Nostradamus life the music suits most of the album well. It's meant to be played as a whole, and not just as individual tracks. For those that listen closely, there is some cool things going on here and there.I'd say A couple tracks are somewhat boring, but not terrible by no means. For their age range, Halford being 60, im impressed with most of this albums diverse dimensions. I give it 8/10

 

[ElectricWiz]

Not to bump this thread back to life, but I've listened to this thing 10 or 12 times now, and frankly, I'm digging the hell out of it.

It's a grower, and those who say you gotta take it all as one piece are right on the money.

I'm not too proud to change my mind and say it's an excellent album (to my ears) at this point, and I only get more into it each time it spins.

But then I do like Point of Entry...an album it doesn't resemble at all...but I just mean to say I don't really mind Priest's experiments.

Also, I don't think Rob is 60 yet, is he? Though he is pushing it. His birthday is 1951 according to Wikipedia...which makes him 57.

All in all this has been a big Priest year for me. I've been spinning all their stuff since Spring, and can't wait for the tour!!!!

 

[poundingmetal74]

After several listens (along with one full listening reading the lyrics/story) it still doesn't feel like a Story / Concept. Operation: Mindcrime felt like a story-driven record and was filled with drama, atmosphere and other elements that moved the story along and made it a masterpiece.

This is merely a bloated record with little drama attracted.

 

[sixxswine]

After several listens (along with one full listening reading the lyrics/story) it still doesn't feel like a Story / Concept. Operation: Mindcrime felt like a story-driven record and was filled with drama, atmosphere and other elements that moved the story along and made it a masterpiece.

This is merely a bloated record with little drama attracted.

I agree with you 100%...
Sadly they didn't deliver...

 

[Wyvern]

I agree with you 100%...
Sadly they didn't deliver...

+2

 

[SoundMaster]

I've listened to disc 1 about 20 times and I really like it now (after being bored to tears after the initial 2 listens). As others have stated, it does grow....there are some great choruses and a cool vibe. This record (at least disc 1...I've literally not listened to disc 2 yet) is more about songs than about riffs, IMO (if you get my meaning).

The production is a mixed bag: I LOVE the fact that you can (finally) discern Ian's bass! However, the drum sound is putrid and ridiculously watered down. But I'm one that can usually overlook bad production (or the damn over-used ubiquitous Andy Sneap over-production).

I'm now looking forward to absorbing disc 2 (assuming my new found love for Iced Earth allows me to)!

So, as of today, my Priest ranking is as follows:
**Unleashed**

1) British Steele
2) Sad Wings
3) Stained Class
4) Screaming
5) Defenders
6) Hell Bent
7) Painkiller
8) Rocka Rolla
9) Nostradamus
10) Sin After Sin
11) Turbo (four great tunes!)
12) Angel
13) Point of Entry
14) Ram It Down (my least fav)

I dont own the Ripper records so I wont comment.

 

[Wyvern]

So, as of today, my Priest ranking is as follows:
**Unleashed**

1) British Steele
2) Sad Wings
3) Stained Class
4) Screaming
5) Defenders
6) Hell Bent
7) Painkiller
8) Rocka Rolla
9) Nostradamus
10) Sin After Sin
11) Turbo (four great tunes!)
12) Angel
13) Point of Entry
14) Ram It Down (my least fav)

I dont own the Ripper records so I wont comment.

Since we're here

1) "Defenders Of The Faith"
2) "Sadwings Of Destiny"
3) "Stained Class"
4) "Painkiller"
5) "Sin After Sin"
6) "Screaming For Vengeance"
7) "Hell Bent For Leather"
8) "British Steel"
9) "Turbo"
10) "Ram It Down"
11) "Rockarolla"
12) "Angel Of Retribution"
13) "Point Of Entry"
14) "Jugulator"
15) "Demolition"
16) "Nostradamus" (not even owned)

1) "Unleashed In The East"
2) "Priest Live!"
3) "Live Meltdown 96"
4) "Live In London" (not even owned)

 

[ElectricWiz]

I've listened to disc 1 about 20 times and I really like it now (after being bored to tears after the initial 2 listens). As others have stated, it does grow....there are some great choruses and a cool vibe. This record (at least disc 1...I've literally not listened to disc 2 yet) is more about songs than about riffs, IMO (if you get my meaning).

The production is a mixed bag: I LOVE the fact that you can (finally) discern Ian's bass! However, the drum sound is putrid and ridiculously watered down. But I'm one that can usually overlook bad production (or the damn over-used ubiquitous Andy Sneap over-production).

I'm now looking forward to absorbing disc 2 (assuming my new found love for Iced Earth allows me to)!

So, as of today, my Priest ranking is as follows:
**Unleashed**

1) British Steele
2) Sad Wings
3) Stained Class
4) Screaming
5) Defenders
6) Hell Bent
7) Painkiller
8) Rocka Rolla
9) Nostradamus
10) Sin After Sin
11) Turbo (four great tunes!)
12) Angel
13) Point of Entry
14) Ram It Down (my least fav)

I don't own the Ripper records so I wont comment.

Dude, interesting you are getting into Iced Earth - I'm totally hooked on Framing Armageddon (again). I was into it when it came out, but now I'm thinking it is the best thing they have ever done. Suddenly I'm sorry that Matt Barlow is coming back.

 

[mdmatt4ever]

So, as of today, my Priest ranking is as follows:
**Unleashed**

1) British Steele
2) Sad Wings
3) Stained Class
4) Screaming
5) Defenders
6) Hell Bent
7) Painkiller
8) Rocka Rolla
9) Nostradamus
10) Sin After Sin
11) Turbo (four great tunes!)
12) Angel
13) Point of Entry
14) Ram It Down (my least fav)

I dont own the Ripper records so I wont comment.

i can't rank british steel that high. its too radio friendly to me. i'd rank the studio albums:

1 stained class
2 hell bent
3 defenders
4 screaming
5 painkiller
6 sin after sin
7 british steel
8 sad wings
9 jugulator
10 nostradamus
11 turbo
12 demolition
13 angel
14 rocka rolla
15 point of entry
16 ram it down

 

[Wyvern]

- I'm totally hooked on Framing Armageddon (again). I was into it when it came out, but now I'm thinking it is the best thing they have ever done. Suddenly I'm sorry that Matt Barlow is coming back.

SEE? I've been told it time and again but no one listened. "Framing Armaggedon" rocks and since it´s Iced Earth I don´t mind the fillers and the whole concept material. I can accept that easily on a band like Iced Earth, but I will not accep it in a band lie Judas Priest.

 

[ElectricWiz]

SEE? I've been told it time and again but no one listened. "Framing Armaggedon" rocks and since it´s Iced Earth I don´t mind the fillers and the whole concept material. I can accept that easily on a band like Iced Earth, but I will not accep it in a band lie Judas Priest.

Actually, I got on board pretty early with this one...but it's funny you compare it to Nostradamus, because I've been spinning that a lot, and suddenly I thought, "you know, I should really put Framing Armageddon in again...." now it's stuck in the player again. Seriously, such a great record. I'll be looking forward to part II, but less so with the departure of Tim Owens. Suddenly I'm looking forward to the new Yngwie album...just to hear Tim (I'm not really an Yngwie fan post Marching Out). The guy is a world class singer. To me he sounds a bit more like Dio than Halford to be frank about it, but I really think FA is a tour de force of singing styles...he kind of covers every major metal niche in it. Again, it's a killer, killer record. No bad songs in my eye. Gotta hand it to Jon, whom I usually think of as a bit of a tool - I can't stand his overt patriotism. Whenever I hear one of his crappy America ballads I can't help but think of that movie the guys from South Park did...America: World Police, or whatever it was. That's full of ridiculous patriot songs too, with the mild difference being they are actually trying to be funny.

 

[Wyvern]

I'll be looking forward to part II, but less so with the departure of Tim Owens. Suddenly I'm looking forward to the new Yngwie album...just to hear Tim (I'm not really an Yngwie fan post Marching Out).

Wow, you´re really hardcore I have all Yngwie albums kind of a guilty pleasure (masochistical many times), so yes I'm too eager to see the product although I already listened to the cover they both did of 'Mr. Crowley' (amazing btw).

To me both Owens and Scheepers sound a bit like Halford but that doesn't diminish their quality as singers, I believe Tim has got a lot of bad deals lately and it's time he got a break, dunno if Malmsteen is the best choice considering the guy had like 7 singers throughout his career, so is not a warranty of stability

 

[SoundMaster]

Dude, interesting you are getting into Iced Earth - I'm totally hooked on Framing Armageddon (again). I was into it when it came out, but now I'm thinking it is the best thing they have ever done. Suddenly I'm sorry that Matt Barlow is coming back.

It's a surprise to me! Back in the late 90s, I picked up Dark Saga & Something Wicked and really dug both. I then picked up Burnt Offerings and was bored to death by it so my 'fandom' of Iced Earth was put on hold....until last week! Something picqued my interest enough to pick up the new single with Barlow and, jeez, every song kicked my ass but especially the Ripper era remakes. Since those songs were so well written, I decided to give "Glorius Burden" a try. Now, for years, I avoided all things Ripper after buying the Priest live set that Ripper completely made unlistenable. But, I have to say, BOTH Ripper Iced Earth albums are FANTASTIC, particulary Framing Armageddon.....just awesome metal!!!

I've since picked up Horrowshow (a classic), Days Of Purgatory (awesome), and have revisited Burnt Offering (90s classic....over the years, I guess my perspective has changed enough that I now enjoy what I did NOT a decade ago). GREAT BAND. I'm now anxiously awaiting the new release AND I plan on getting the Ripper solo record!!

 

[poundingmetal74]

I tried my damnedest to get into Framing Armageddon. Something about the production really set me back and made the album unlisteningable. (I can't remember what aspect of the production is was).

Also, ripper's vocal style has gotten really old. Even in Iced Earth as he attempted to "broaden his horizons" he still sings 1.8 lines and on the last note makes it a high scream. Then sing midrange for the next 1.8 lines.

That said however, I prefered the ripper versions of the new songs much more than the Barlow versions.

 

[Wyvern]

I love 'Framming Armageddon', Owens vocals never bothered me as a matter of fact are the magic of the album. I may have to get back to 'The Glorious Burden' and recheck it.