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thanks guys.... i'm pretty sucky compared to the person i'm giving this toBest post ever. I was raised in the boonies, so I was around guns and hunting my entire life. I'm pretty sick at clay pigeons. You're exactly right - hunters don't need automatic weapons. But gun laws won't make a difference in crime. There are already hundreds of laws regulating firearms, and we still have gun crimes. Maybe we should be paying less attention to guns and more attention to people.
greenaxer
Knight of the Templar
EXACTLY.
I'm so sick of people pointing fingers at music, movies, video games, etc. as the causes for many of society's ills such as tragedies like this. This is people not taking responsibility for their own actions, but blaming others or other things. PEOPLE are responsible for problems like this, not objects. The solution comes from parents sincerely communicating with their children, providing parental support where needed, and most importantly, a family, friends, and community showing love and offering help to troubled individuals. It all starts and ends with people.
DoomsdayZach
The Professor was right
I had an interesting conversation with a friend (before all of this happened, not that the timeline matters) about murder and who is capable of such a thing. We pretty much decided that given certain circumstances (which will be different for each person), i believe everyone is more than capable of taking another life. Of course, there are people who are more inclined to kill for less than "justified" reasons.
Again, nothing to do with the shooting, i've always had a fascination with death and the concept of one person ending another person's life. That's not to say I wish to experience it, but regardless, it's interesting. Also, it is very eye opening to think of your limits, and where you feel someone crosses the line to the point where they deserve to die. interesting stuff.
Oh, also, i'd say that if any form of media were to drive me to murder, it wouldn't be metal. And i'm not gonna say "ZOMG TEH RADIO DRIVEZ ME KRAZI AND I WILL KILL PEEPLE BECUZ I HATE POP MUZIK!!!1!!1one!"
In all seriousness, Nick Cave's "Murder Ballads" album is pretty twisted, probably moreso than most death metal. Death metal is almost comical in its over the top brutality. The stuff on murder ballads is very, very realistic. If anything were to give me ideas... it'd be that. Not cannibal corpse.
DoomsdayZach
The Professor was right
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Kenneth R.
Cináed
so like 200 people were killed in Iraq today. who wants to bet it won't make the news cause they're still sensationalizing and making media scripted programs about the virginia tech thing? someone's job is seriously to sit there and make little riffs and graphics for these programs. someone's job is to edit footage and make it all dramatic right as they go to commercial. repulsive.
oh wait, they'll air the deaths in Iraq today. Cause it has the word Iraq on it. But we won't mourn them because they're not Americans, and we won't mourn the thousands who die daily from preventable hunger and disease, while we continue to fund our military and give ratings to the media. We will mourn those 32 kids because they were Americans and zomg we love tragedy. Even people who have absolutely zero connection to the situation will act as if they were personally there. Get on the hokie bandwagon. It's the latest fashion. (by no means do I discredit anyone who literally did have connection to the incident. just everybody else.)
oh wait, they'll air the deaths in Iraq today. Cause it has the word Iraq on it. But we won't mourn them because they're not Americans, and we won't mourn the thousands who die daily from preventable hunger and disease, while we continue to fund our military and give ratings to the media. We will mourn those 32 kids because they were Americans and zomg we love tragedy. Even people who have absolutely zero connection to the situation will act as if they were personally there. Get on the hokie bandwagon. It's the latest fashion. (by no means do I discredit anyone who literally did have connection to the incident. just everybody else.)
SilentRealm
Member
DoomsdayZach said:
i think a possibility why things happened the way they did in this case was he must have been depressed to the point of suicidal beforehand..he must have already decided he was going to die that day, but he wanted to make sure people saw and felt his pain before he went by taking out as many innocents with him as possible, and causing pain to as many other people as possible on the way.. i think its pretty much the same thing where teens make suicide attempts because they want to make a statement to their parents, and want their parents to suffer for a hurt they feel, but obviously on a much larger scale.. i dunno, im rambling..
SilentRealm
Member
Kenneth R. said:
this is true.. not to get into an argument with anyone here, but i just love how what 2.5 thousand 'americans' died 9/11? and im not saying thats not a bad thing, it was shocking and a horrible tragedy.. but how many americans have now died since then because bush keeps sending them in to war for some purpose i wonder if he even knows about anymore.. i think the count is around 3200 and rising? with the announcement that even more are being sent off now. not to mention those from other countries helping america out such as australia and britain. and thats not to count the thousands upon thousands of innocent iraqi's and afghani's who have had to die as well for this, which we barely hear about because they aren't westerners so 'who cares'.. the whole thing is pointless and horrifying and gone beyond the point of 'freedom fighting' if it was ever about that to begin with - which I don't think it honestly was, but hey, thats just my opinion - i know theres people here who disagree with it, and thats cool too.
i remember seeing a news report when the afghani war first started, and american soldiers were going into the caves and killing taliban people.. and yes the taliban is wrong and has done awful things, but i was still disgusted by the 'glee' the news reporters had over taliban people being dragged out, tortured and murdered. its not about 'what have they done to us?' but 'at what point does murdering another human become not only ok, but a joyous event?' - all of it is sickening..
P.S. - not getting into a 9/11 argument or anything, just made me think is all..
SymX_AUS
Member
quote from ask MJR question thread
"You know a band is big when you go to a typical aussie gig and you see 4 or 5 seperate people with 'The Odyssey' shirts on"
i tend to dissagree on this one...a metal shop finally orders a good bands merch in and presto the trendwhores and sheep jump on the bandwagon...
everyone that i have seen with a symphony x shirt on has only had an odyssey one and when u try to converse about the band, they know 2 songs off the odyssey and get confused and think u are talking about static X(true Story)
"You know a band is big when you go to a typical aussie gig and you see 4 or 5 seperate people with 'The Odyssey' shirts on"
i tend to dissagree on this one...a metal shop finally orders a good bands merch in and presto the trendwhores and sheep jump on the bandwagon...
everyone that i have seen with a symphony x shirt on has only had an odyssey one and when u try to converse about the band, they know 2 songs off the odyssey and get confused and think u are talking about static X(true Story)
J-Dubya 777
It NEVER ends
Well, they are the "bad guys" in this epic war. I don't believe there are "good guy" Taliban memebrs. IIRC, they are a repressive minded sect that will continue to try to disrupt any tranquility in any newly established government. Strictly MHFO, that neither Iraq or Afganistan will EVER be able to fend for themselves, no matter how many troops, and how many $'s are spent trying. As for the troops on the ground, if you're doging IEDs & VBIEDs day in & day out and you can off ONE of those guys who builds, plants, or manufactures them, it's a joyous occasion. Everybody wants a "clean" war
but the reality is, it doesn't work that way. It's too bad people have to die, but they started it, and we'll finish it, one way or another....
progmetaldan
Member
The guys I've only ever seen with V shirts, I've never seen an Odyssey shirt here in Adelaide now that I think of it... And anyone I've spoken to knew what they were talking about... But yeah, there'll always be band-wagoners wherever u are...
SilentRealm
Member
J-Dubya 777 said:
but the point is, i dont think anyone should be gleeful about killing someone else.. it makes us as bad as them..
SilentRealm
Member
SymX_AUS
Member
SymX_AUS
Member
lol true.... i just find it funny how when the new sydney 'hype' band mentions them as an influence..all of a sudden everyone has been listening to them for years lmao...the funnier thing is, this 'hype' band dont even show Symphony X justice in saying that
thats enough bitching for the day
*runs back to cave*
meisteh
Member
J-Dubya 777
It NEVER ends
Well like I said, I'm sure none of the foot soldiers shed a tear when a 500 lb GBU hits an old house filled with insurgent snipers. If it's killed or be killed (i.e. WAR) I'd be pretty fuggin' happy if I just machinegunned a rush of insurgents, and got to live another day. I'm not saying we should have a day long parade, for it, and drag their bomblet riddled corpses behind a tank, with our troops dancing around it (like THEY do) but I *hope* you can understand where my pov is based on.
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