Official Off Topic Thread

[Iced Dog]

a few of which I disagree with, but as a whole he is a unifier and a real inciter of political engagement for the public. People who never vote turned out to vote, just cause of him.

Yep...I don't agree with giving drivers licenses for illegals (his reasoning is that it will cut down on hit-and-runs because they are afraid to report an accident that would uncover them being an alien), but that's relatively minor in the grand scheme. He definitely has an inspirational quality...people like to compare him with JFK in that regard.

Hey, didn't Bush call himself a uniter? Oh wait, he's not a uniter, he's THE DECIDER

 

[proulxski]

yeh, but remember mexico is a country of its own, Quebec is not, Quebec is a province which falls under the federal laws of canada! I'm all up for learning languages, I have no problem with being bilingual, but is it fair that anglophones have to do that much more schooling? To get our highschool leaving diploma you have to pass French History, Science, Math, English, and FRENCH with flying colours! In an ENGLISH public school, where as francophones, don't have to pass english to get their leaving. And its that kind of mentality, that creates seperatists!

In quebec we live in a world where, Francophones can get a job without speaking a WORD of english, where anglophones have to be FLUENT in french otherwise they will not be hired. A good example is my younger brother, recieved a complaint because apparently he was unable to communicate in the customers 'MOTHER' tongue, while this is true, is it not the effort that counts? Its part of the quebec language laws to have to speak french... Otherwise you will not make money! My net/phone/cable service is a french company (videotron) I ordrered that shit as an english customer, and I said I wanted my statements in English, guess what....there in french.

GAYNESS!

 

[Kenneth R.]

Thing is, while I see your point, it goes back to what meedles and I were just talking about.

 

[Burnout]

I'd also like the next president to quit using the Constitution as ass wipe.

 

[noble savage]

I'd also like the next president to quit using the Constitution as ass wipe.

Yes! And perhaps remove the laws where it's ok for police to hold you indefinitely without cause, warrant less wiretaps etc etc.

On an off topic note. My cat Marlon hasn't been feeling well these past few days. So, I let him in my room because he wanted to sleep on my bed. I just picked him up to get him out so I could go to bed and noticed the little fucking prick pissed all over my bed. Now a huge, warm puddle of cat piss sits only inches away from my face. Fuck cats, I like my leopard gecko better.. Oh wait, he ate that a few weeks ago. Cock sucker.

 

[Jax]

Aww poor kitty..hope he feels better soon.

 

[Iced Dog]

Now a huge, warm puddle of cat piss sits only inches away from my face

Cats rule...I hope your furry one gets better

 

[noble savage]

Aww poor kitty..hope he feels better soon.

Thanks, I hope he does to. It just blows my mind that his litter is a total of 15 feet from my room to the garage and he decides it's ok to just lay there and pee himself. On my bed and by where my head lays of all places.

Oh well, I could go sleep in the tub. I've always wanted to do that.

 

[Burnout]

Yes! And perhaps remove the laws where it's ok for police to hold you indefinitely without cause, warrant less wiretaps etc etc.

There's also the $400 million they gave to Haliburton to build detention facilities in the US and so on, but yeah, someone sane would be great!

 

[noble savage]

There's also the $400 million they gave to Haliburton to build detention facilities in the US and so on, but yeah, someone sane would be great!

I forgot about that. My brain must have had a bullshit overload. I think, in light of recent events, there should be a psychological evaluation of all potential presidential candidates. You know, just to make sure they're not completely out of their mind.

 

[Redragon]

On the abortion issue...

It should be a federal law that abortions should remain 100% legal. The notion christians like to go on that makes it wrong is the premise that humans have souls, but since this is an entirely faith based assumption, not everyone believes there is such a thing as a soul. Furthermore, a fetus doesn't develop consciousness immediately. If something is not aware of itself, its not going to make one difference to it if its alive or dead, since it doesn't even know its alive to begin with. We can of course, debate up to what point its ok to have an abortion... and I think its already illegal to have one past a certain point.

Pro choice means you have a choice. I am perfectly fine with someone who's beliefs do not think its right to have an abortion. You don't have to... but maybe the woman who was raped thinks differently about that.

I have a few questions for you:

1) Exactly what age for the child should it become illegal for abortion?

2) Why should we not kill a kid who is 2 or 3 years old if the parents want it?

3) Whats your response to the fact that many more kids will "mess around" because they know afterwards they can just abort the kid?


Btw, I do not agree with Abortion at all, and I am a Christian, so if you have any question let me know.

Redragon

 

[noble savage]

I have a few questions for you:

1) Exactly what age for the child should it become illegal for abortion?

2) Why should we not kill a kid who is 2 or 3 years old if the parents want it?

3) Whats your response to the fact that many more kids will "mess around" because they know afterwards they can just abort the kid?


Btw, I do not agree with Abortion at all, and I am a Christian, so if you have any question let me know.

Redragon

1) Before the cells form a child. Within the first few weeks. I can understand how aborting a fully developed child would cause concern.

2) I don't know how to respond to this without sounding like a dick.

3) Sexuality is a huge part of human nature. Regardless of what measures you try to implement kids will still do it. My response is effective methods of birth control. Birth control pills could completely stop unwanted pregnancy.

What do you think about stem cells?

 

[Burnout]

I forgot about that. My brain must have had a bullshit overload. I think, in light of recent events, there should be a psychological evaluation of all potential presidential candidates. You know, just to make sure they're not completely out of their mind.

No kidding, it's beyond me how he even got elected a second time.

 

[Meedleyx10]

I have a few questions for you:

1) Exactly what age for the child should it become illegal for abortion?

2) Why should we not kill a kid who is 2 or 3 years old if the parents want it?

3) Whats your response to the fact that many more kids will "mess around" because they know afterwards they can just abort the kid?


Btw, I do not agree with Abortion at all, and I am a Christian, so if you have any question let me know.

Redragon

1. Lots of room for debate on that one.
2. Like Matt said, up to a certain point, the fetus has no consciousness. Regardless of views on abortion, you can't honestly tell me that you don't see a difference between a 2 or 3 year old kid and an unborn fetus with no consciousness.
3. That argument holds no water whatsoever.

 

[Swabs]

4. Christians.

 

[Phanto]

3) Whats your response to the fact that many more kids will "mess around" because they know afterwards they can just abort the kid?


Btw, I do not agree with Abortion at all, and I am a Christian, so if you have any question let me know.

Redragon

Igniting the flame here.

3) You're frikken stupid if you think people will froglock more without protection just because they can do abortions later on. Seriously. You're calling it a fact. You're so unenlightened I wanna punch you in the mouth.

<I wrote some stuff here regarding how tuttifrutty stupid some people seem to be who want to bring values of a single religion in a nationwide politics. But I don't want to get the thread locked. So I'm doing it discreetly: You're apeshit crazy.>

I'm with the guys/girls saying you can't put the abortion issue into bureaucracy. That's moronic.

EDIT: I edited my post because, yeah, I guess I used quite a bit o' language in there. But that did tick me off quite a bit.

 

[Redragon]

Igniting the flame here.

3) You're fucking stupid if you think people will fuck more without protection just because they can do abortions later on. Seriously. You're calling it a fact. You're so stupid I wanna punch you in the mouth.

<I wrote some stuff here regarding how fucking stupid some people seem to be who want to bring values of a single religion in a nationwide politics. But I don't want to get the thread locked. So I'm doing it discreetly: You're apeshit crazy.>

I'm with the guys/girls saying you can't put the abortion issue into bureaucracy. That's moronic.

wow dude. Why are you getting so worked up when i just asked a few questions???
I never said i agreed with any of those and if you think more kids wont screw around more because they can abort the kid afterwards then i think you need to hang/talk to more kids...

I myself know one kid that screws around and he said that if worst comes to worst then he can just abort the kid.
Since then my views have changed a bit....

2. Like Matt said, up to a certain point, the fetus has no consciousness. Regardless of views on abortion, you can't honestly tell me that you don't see a difference between a 2 or 3 year old kid and an unborn fetus with no consciousness.

When exactly does the fetus become a child???
Its like: Ok, should we abort the fetus now? we only have one week before it becomes a "kid"
Its murder to kill a kid if you dont want it, but hey if its still a fetus then why not?

 

[Meedleyx10]

if you think more kids wont screw around more because they can abort the kid afterwards then i think you need to hang/talk to more kids...

I myself know one kid that screws around and he said that if worst comes to worst then he can just abort the kid.
Since then my views have changed a bit....

ZOMG YOU KNOW ONE KID WHO FEELS THAT WAY!!!!!!!!

What you encountered was one kid who was an idiot and (regardless of the issue at hand) will probably always be an idiot. I'm not going to get as worked up as Phanto about this, but get serious dude....that argument holds no water whatsoever. What WOULD happen if abortions were banned is that more dangerous/illegal methods would make up for the difference. You'd get a lot of "oops...I accidently fell down the stairs, looks like I had a miscarriage, doctor!". People like to fuck and will do so regardless of the abortion issue. Abortion isn't exactly a pretty thing so to think that kids would have more unprotected sex on the basis that everything can be fixed with an abortion, you're delusional. The whole notion is completely ridiculous.

When exactly does the fetus become a child???
Its like: Ok, should we abort the fetus now? we only have one week before it becomes a "kid"
Its murder to kill a kid if you dont want it, but hey if its still a fetus then why not?

If you honestly can't differentiate between an unborn fetus with no consciousness and a 2-3 year old kid, then I simply can't take you seriously in this.

 

[Phanto]

I myself know one kid that screws around and he said that if worst comes to worst then he can just abort the kid.
Since then my views have changed a bit....

HE?! What the hell, man. Are you fucking kidding me?

That whole quote just made me cry.

 

[OfSinsAndShred]

I'm just gonna stop reading this thread until this blows over.

SHIT, I want to jump into this argument.