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Working out is such bs, when you can actually go "out" and do something. Yes, even you busy busy city dwellers can run a few blocks.

working out and weight lifting has great health benefits. When you increase your muscle mass, you increase your base metabolism, so your body burns more at rest. Cardiovascular exercise is important too, for good fitness levels you should be doing both. So I'd highly disagree that working out is "bs." I'm not saying become a body builder (because that would require taking shit like steroids which ALL pro bodybuilders are on) but putting your muscles through stress they don't normally get on a daily basis is a good thing. And all the average person really needs is two days of full body strength training a week.
 
And I said, doing that staring at a wall in a room full of sweaty people that plays horrid "worst of the 80s and 90s" music, not to mention PAYING for it, is plain asinine when all one needs to do is step out the door and go at it. In short I think real outdoor exercise is not only better for you (think cleaner air even, your own music, your own pace, etc) but you don't even have to pay for it.
 
I'm with you on the 'go outside!' aspect as far as walking goes, Kenneth..it boggles my mind when people here (in California where the weather is never all that bad) pay hundreds (or more) for a treadmill when they could just as easily go walk around the block (or farther). That said, I can sort of understand when people in areas with bad winter weather do so; when I lived in western MI, there was no way I was going to go walk around the block in 8" of snow unless I had to take the dog out.
 
Winter areas: Snowshoeing, Cross Country Skiing, Skating, Curling if that's your thing, Downhill skiing, Ice climbing, even SHOVELING. There's always something to do, no matter where you live.

And yeah, I realize you could argue "well downhill skiing isn't free!" It is if you hike up- and there's more exercize for you.
 
I actually think his analogy was a good one. It's a good change of pace from the same ol' same ol'.

And I said, doing that staring at a wall in a room full of sweaty people that plays horrid "worst of the 80s and 90s" music, not to mention PAYING for it, is plain asinine when all one needs to do is step out the door and go at it. In short I think real outdoor exercise is not only better for you (think cleaner air even, your own music, your own pace, etc) but you don't even have to pay for it.
I agree with you in theory, but sometimes it helps to have a little extra motivation, and that mental "oh shit i'm paying for it, i had better go" thing does work for a lot of folks. Personally i'm not a real "outdoorsy" type of person. Sure i'll go on a hike with friends every now and then but it just isn't something i do multiple times a week. Going outside for a run isn't realistic where i live since it rains about 9-10 months out of the year (yeah, the 2-3 months where there's decent weather it's nice to go for a quick jog in the actual outside), but most of the time it's too cold and wet... i have lived here all my life and am not afraid of getting wet, but prolonged exposure to cold and wet weather causes sickness which is counter-productive to a decent work-out. Also, living in a city is far easier to get daily exercise. The city i live in is so spread out and completely de-centralized with no real public transportation to speak of, so driving everywhere is the only realistic option a lot of the time. In a city, you have the option of walking a few blocks, grabbing a bus, take it a few minutes up the road where you need to get then back home. It just isn't a reality everywhere, so in that way going to get exercise somewhere just makes more sense.
Also, a lot of people have jobs where they sit in front of a computer all day and get absolutely no exercise (such as mine). in a lot of ways i'd rather work construction than this job because i'd actually get up and around, but my job simply doesn't afford that luxury. Same goes for many people. They sit in a chair at a desk for 8 hours, then go to watch tv at home or whatever. Personally, i'm for the people who chose to hit a gym on their way home or whatever.
I'm all for anything that helps people actually do something besides sit at the computer / tv, and if it takes a gym then i think that's awesome. I know it's just an anti-corporate/anti-fad thing you have ken, but really i think going to a gym is better than nothing. I'm not trying to convince you to join a gym, but the benefits drastically outweigh the fact that it boils down to people paying to use equipment to get benifits that they could get otherwise.
 
I had a friend back in Pittsburgh who had a weight bench and a treadmill and liked Dream Theater and Symphony X. In the winter, I guess something like that would be preferred to running in 20 degree weather but, in the summer I like walking/jogging in the woods. Much more enjoyable to me.
 
And I said, doing that staring at a wall in a room full of sweaty people that plays horrid "worst of the 80s and 90s" music, not to mention PAYING for it, is plain asinine when all one needs to do is step out the door and go at it. In short I think real outdoor exercise is not only better for you (think cleaner air even, your own music, your own pace, etc) but you don't even have to pay for it.

I don't pay for it. I get a great strength training workout at home using bodyweight exercises (pushups, pull ups, squats, etc) and dumbbells.


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@ kenn: I've yet to see somone go curling outside, thats what indoor CURLING arenas are for :) the rest those is awesome. I over did snowshoeing though, back and elemantry school it was like part of gym class, wtf lol?

Oh and for those of you who remember 'Friends' you should probably see our spoof intro lol!

 
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proulxski, you guys make a good point.

I'm not very good at keeping friendships. Maybe it's got to do with trying to be friends with so many people and not having time concentrate on them evenly.

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edit: and on top of that, I'm not good at keeping relationships either