Opeth has run its course

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NineFeetUnderground said:
there may be a lot of truth and validity to what youre saying...but i have nothing to lose to hear one more album out of them to see what happens. but i have my reservations. i just want opeth to stop the "opeth" sound...and do something different and unpredictable.


I think a 1 track album....is in order with some really radical shit in it I'm thinking somethign kickass like Hammered Dulcimers and alot more atmosphere, I admit Ghost REveries is rather stale...it has that super polished sound that everyone goes for these days...they need to be gritty (not st. anger gritty mind you.) and just....still be able to tell its Opeth....but pretty much make us go :OMG:
 
Benighted1 said:
Well first of all I think you will find that the majority of people consider Blackwater Park to be Opeths "essential" album, not Still Life.

I refer you to the best album poll. And by "essential" I didn't mean best album but explaining would be too confusing and i don't have time.

2nd, Opeth already had ghost reveries pretty much sorted before even joining roadrunner so the fact that they went with roadrunner had no bearing what so ever on the record.

I doubt this very much. These sorts of deals are made long before they are announced, and the label most likely told them to say that so they wouldn't be blamed if the record burned.

3rd, Growls on ghost reveries forced? Are you completely retarded or do you skip Baying of the hounds everytime you listen to the album?
lastly, how did Damnation do badly?

Where did I say this? The original poster said they were forced and NFU said Damnation did badly. I personally enjoyed damnation (hence my "arguably" comment) but clearly others in this thread didn't.

Most fans of the band already, loved the album and it also opened up the door for a whole lot of new fans who would eventually come to love even the growls so therefore I reckon damnation did wonders for the band....

So what? Most Metallica fans loved Load and opened up pathways to new fans.. marijuana opens up doors to heroin for some people. does that mean these things are good and we should worship them?
 
hibernal_dream said:
I refer you to the best album poll. And by "essential" I didn't mean best album but explaining would be too confusing and i don't have time.

and not even going to bother replying to this but instead refer you to the ENGLISH dictionary..

I doubt this very much. These sorts of deals are made long before they are announced, and the label most likely told them to say that so they wouldn't be blamed if the record burned.

So are you saying Mike is a liar?



Where did I say this? The original poster said they were forced and NFU said Damnation did badly. I personally enjoyed damnation (hence my "arguably" comment) but clearly others in this thread didn't.
erm you said it go and read your on post again if your memory is that bad and I know NFU and others said it too but the fact remains that you said it as well...


So what? Most Metallica fans loved Load and opened up pathways to new fans.. marijuana opens up doors to heroin for some people. does that mean these things are good and we should worship them?
thats the most irrelavant agrument Ive seen in a while.. your alternative screen name isn't Metal_wrath is it?

Edit:- some of my replies got included in the quote but you guys get the picture...
 
NineFeetUnderground said:
*cough ^ yep cough*

he tried to make a "psychadelic" album with damnation. it crashed and burned into average predictable opeth ballads...lets let him stick to what hes good at. or maybe he just needed to get his feet wet. either way...i hope the next thing knocks my socks off.


yeah damnation doesn't strike me as terribly "psychadelic" just becaue you have a mellotron/hammond...etc doesn't make it prog/psych :erk: decent album though.
 
hibernal_dream said:
Let me know when you make it out of high school, learn to read and how to form an argument, then i'll get back to you

:lol: your right because I definatley can't read.. shit I wonder how I navigated my way to this site and somehow made it into the Opeth forum and replied to your dumass post if I cant read? shit you got me there buddy :rolleyes:
 
NineFeetUnderground said:
*cough ^ yep cough*

he tried to make a "psychadelic" album with damnation. it crashed and burned into average predictable opeth ballads...lets let him stick to what hes good at. or maybe he just needed to get his feet wet. either way...i hope the next thing knocks my socks off.

I thought Damnation was set out to be a mellow album, not a psychadelic one...? Just curious.
 
Steedus said:
I thought Damnation was set out to be a mellow album, not a psychadelic one...? Just curious.

i beleive even the documentary on the DVD states otherwise. tbqh imo afaik

either way, damnation isnt a bad album, i appreciate it for what it is. but im also not going to pretend its something it isnt. and i never debated that it helped the band, im merely talking about my perceptions of the record musically, not otherwise.
 
Opeth has eleven years and eight amazing albums to its credit.

From the 1995 release of Orchid to the "major label" release of Ghost Reveries, Opeth has continued down a path the band has paved. Contrary to the belief of some that going mainstream (if that's what they are considered on the Roadrunner label) is somehow the culmination of Opeth is nonsense in the fact that Ghost Reveries was written before they ever signed onto the label. And I'm sorry to report that Opeth is anything but mainstream. You don't see them filling an 18,000 seat stadium, which to me is an important sign of being mainstream.

A listener of music, and more specifically the follower of a band, has a some mental choices to make. Has your journey been satisfying? Is the band fulfilling your image of what they should be? Is the band being true to itself? Well, in my estimation Opeth HAS been true to itself. In reading various articles and interviews, Opeth has delivered eight albums of their creation. The new album has my all-time favorite song on it - Ghost of Perdition. When Kashmir was released by Led Zeppelin, that was my all-time favorite song. It took 30 years for a song to kncok Kashmir out of my #1 spot, and that song was The Drapery Falls. Five years later, The Drapery Falls has fallen to second place. I guess that means to me Opeth is still producing ever so powerful and under appreciated music. For me, Opeth doesn't get the musically genious credit it deserves. Whether it's the growls or just the genre, they just haven't been given the chance to dance in the big show. It's a shame, but the metal genre keeps most bands relatively obscure. Metallica most definately broke the metal mold, but not many metal bands have followed, at least not to that level. Opeth deserves more - their music is brilliant.

I've grown tired of bands over the years after being "stuck" on them. Aerosmith didn't grip me their entire career. Nor did The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Black Sabbath, Metallica etc etc. There are only two bands that have never lost their grip on me - Led Zeppelin and Opeth. I'd also say Grip Inc. but only three albums doesn't put them in my legendary status.

If you feel Opeth is "done", there is a ton of music out there waiting for new ears. Nothing wrong with moving on, or having a certain sound grow old. It just hasn't happened to me with Opeth. I just don't grow fatigued of them, nor do I feel they've tapped themselves. If Ghost Reveries is their last album, no regrets here. They've left me with plenty of memorable music. But until that day comes, I will just listen and anticipate their future until otherwise noted.
 
I think mikael and the band can still come up with some amazing stuff, proof is GR is their best album so far. I just wish next time around they release a completely different record, maybe explore a little further into different styles.
 
MetalManCPA said:
Opeth has eleven years and eight amazing albums to its credit.

From the 1995 release of Orchid to the "major label" release of Ghost Reveries, Opeth has continued down a path the band has paved. Contrary to the belief of some that going mainstream (if that's what they are considered on the Roadrunner label) is somehow the culmination of Opeth is nonsense in the fact that Ghost Reveries was written before they ever signed onto the label. And I'm sorry to report that Opeth is anything but mainstream. You don't see them filling an 18,000 seat stadium, which to me is an important sign of being mainstream.

A listener of music, and more specifically the follower of a band, has a some mental choices to make. Has your journey been satisfying? Is the band fulfilling your image of what they should be? Is the band being true to itself? Well, in my estimation Opeth HAS been true to itself. In reading various articles and interviews, Opeth has delivered eight albums of their creation. The new album has my all-time favorite song on it - Ghost of Perdition. When Kashmir was released by Led Zeppelin, that was my all-time favorite song. It took 30 years for a song to kncok Kashmir out of my #1 spot, and that song was The Drapery Falls. Five years later, The Drapery Falls has fallen to second place. I guess that means to me Opeth is still producing ever so powerful and under appreciated music. For me, Opeth doesn't get the musically genious credit it deserves. Whether it's the growls or just the genre, they just haven't been given the chance to dance in the big show. It's a shame, but the metal genre keeps most bands relatively obscure. Metallica most definately broke the metal mold, but not many metal bands have followed, at least not to that level. Opeth deserves more - their music is brilliant.

I've grown tired of bands over the years after being "stuck" on them. Aerosmith didn't grip me their entire career. Nor did The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Black Sabbath, Metallica etc etc. There are only two bands that have never lost their grip on me - Led Zeppelin and Opeth. I'd also say Grip Inc. but only three albums doesn't put them in my legendary status.

If you feel Opeth is "done", there is a ton of music out there waiting for new ears. Nothing wrong with moving on, or having a certain sound grow old. It just hasn't happened to me with Opeth. I just don't grow fatigued of them, nor do I feel they've tapped themselves. If Ghost Reveries is their last album, no regrets here. They've left me with plenty of memorable music. But until that day comes, I will just listen and anticipate their future until otherwise noted.

I concur
 
I seriously wouldn't mind if Opeth gave up metal and just went prog rock. I think there's enough heavy shit to keep me entertained for life, and their lighter for mellow stuff is just as good and in some cases better.
 
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