Opeth has run its course

[Caesar Metallius]

I don't see how anyone could say Opeth is going stale. They continually put out good, solid metal albums, each with a sound unique from the others, (of course some sounds more unique than others). I think they are progressing musically, while maintaining the qualities of their identity. Just because they haven't put out some album that sounds of a completely different genre does not mean they are not progressing. They are, after all, a metal band. If I want to listen to Jazz or Blues, I will go buy a Joni Mitchell or Miles Davis album.

I think that an unusual shift on their next album would be interesting, but I would be greatly dissapointed if they stopped playing metal or did something like Metallica did when they tried to reform.

Cheers Opeth! You guys rule!

 

[Alteredmindeath]

I don't see how anyone could say Opeth is going stale. They continually put out good, solid metal albums, each with a sound unique from the others, (of course some sounds more unique than others). I think they are progressing musically, while maintaining the qualities of their identity. Just because they haven't put out some album that sounds of a completely different genre does not mean they are not progressing. They are, after all, a metal band. If I want to listen to Jazz or Blues, I will go buy a Joni Mitchell or Miles Davis album.

I think that an unusual shift on their next album would be interesting, but I would be greatly dissapointed if they stopped playing metal or did something like Metallica did when they tried to reform.

Cheers Opeth! You guys rule!

I would like to see them do something crazy and off the wall, but still within the boundries of Opeth and staying complex within the arrangements and riffs. With Lopez gone now, and a keyboard player on board, this band is morphing into something alittle different than what I remember back in the glory days.

 

[BrandonS]

Lets see where do I start?

Well first of all I think you will find that the majority of people consider Blackwater Park to be Opeths "essential" album, not Still Life.
2nd, Opeth already had ghost reveries pretty much sorted before even joining roadrunner so the fact that they went with roadrunner had no bearing what so ever on the record.
3rd, Growls on ghost reveries forced? Are you completely retarded or do you skip Baying of the hounds everytime you listen to the album?
lastly, how did Damnation do badly?
Most fans of the band already, loved the album and it also opened up the door for a whole lot of new fans who would eventually come to love even the growls so therefore I reckon damnation did wonders for the band....

Basically 90% of your post was complete dribble... Sorry

They had GR done before the sign, but anything they do now will be after the sign, and thus be under the influence of the label and the mainstream interests.

 

[affinityband]

Oh my God i thought you were banned.

 

[philza]

you know chris, im pretty sure he does it on purpose

 

[affinityband]

ooo hi there phillip. Glad to see your mean streak is fading.

 

[Allfader]

let`s see....

when opeth begins, there was a mix between black metal with progressive 70's rock ands some heavy metal influences (orchid and morningrise). (my favourite era of opeth)

from orchid the insights are: forest of october (my favourite song of opeth), in mist she was standing, under the weeping moon.

morningrise maybe is the best album of opeth. all his songs are great (maybe nectar be less great than others, but is great too). the ballad to bid you farewell is amazing, and black rose immortal is a amazing black metal song.

MAYH is less black metal, more closer to death metal with the same influence of prog music. (really good too) the best songs to me: april ethereal, when, demon of the fall, credence.

Still life was a predictible step in this evolution. I think the true essence of Opeth ended here, his last really amazing album. the best songs to me: the moor (the best of the album), face of melinda, white cluster.

BWP was a suprise to me, less strong than any other album with a strange new influence (i'm not sure if is steve wilson), i don't like it and i feel really dissapointed of it.

Deliverance was for me the next: "ok, they don't will do music like they did before, but this new sound likes me". a really good album, with a new kind of power, more closer to death metal (master`s apprentices, by the pain i see in others). a brutal album. maybe deliverance is " Morningrise of new millenium".

Damnation is a great album, thinkin' in isn't a heavy album. a jazz influence is very notorious in all songs, and Pink Floyd too DD (In my time of need, to rid the disease, death whispered a lullaby, etc)

GR finally, is better than BWP to me, but weak besides deliverance. is the first time to me no one song has a really great clean part. i don´t like the keyboard on opeth. is more progressive than any album before but personally i don´t like it. only 2 songs are average (ghost of perdition, the baying of the hounds), others, less good.

to the people who knew opeth with GR, obviously they think is the best album, but i wanna know what are thinkin' the old fans of opeth about it.

i respect the evolution of the bands, i hope opeth releases in near future really brutal albums, but the road who has taken ...i don't like it

 

[philza]

ooo hi there phillip. Glad to see your mean streak is fading.

im a very mean person

 

[affinityband]

Aww well i think your just darling.

 

[saut]

a jazz influence is very notorious in all songs

have fun opethforum

 

[kendoji]

^ ooh yes that's a good 'un

 

[Rocky Raccoon]

Woohoo! Any excuse'll do. Oh, and can everyone quit it with the 'imo' shit. It's obviously your opinion or you wouldn't be saying it, dumbass.

yea I agree. Of course its your fucking opinion if your the one typing it.
As for reminding people that its your opinion? WTF? surely most people here aren't thick enough not to be able to determine opinion from fact??!?

 

[BurningSky]

The original poster made some ridiculous claims, but i'll just reply to the idea that they've gotten stale (which is obviously personal opinion). I don't think they've gotten stale, and it's a situation where they'll most likely move into another phase to prove so. Orchid and Morningrise are of the same ilk musically i would say. MAYH and Still Life fit together. And BWP, D&D, and most of GR fit together as well. The reason They haven't gotten stale to me is that every couple albums they completely revamp their style and catch you off-guard, it just depends whether or not you can continue with the band as a fan of the new style. One of my favorite things about Opeth is that I can't predict what they'll do next. They could put out something similar to GR, which I would still probably love (since i love GR) or they could do something completely different, which I would probably end up loving, too, though it's impossible to say at this point.

It's pretty annoying when people say opeth suck now or they've run their course just because theyre not a fan of their current sound. Shut up and move on to another band, but it's absurd to right off their music completely just because you don't like it.

By the way mike, really looking forward to that SW and Portnoy project. Best of luck!

 

[Alteredmindeath]

I don't hate Opeth, I still stand strong on my view points tho and I don't care for the keyboards in Opeth that much. I can see repetitivness becoming more of a factor, especially on Ghost Reveries. I will always enjoy old Opeth, I really enjoyed Under the weeping moon live on Ghost Reveries tour. I will try and stay positive on the upcoming releases, and Axe as an Opeth drummer I don't know how good thats going to be but its a challenge to replace Lopez.

 

[philza]

I don't hate Opeth, I still stand strong on my view points tho and I don't care for the keyboards in Opeth that much. I can see repetitivness becoming more of a factor, especially on Ghost Reveries. I will always enjoy old Opeth, I really enjoyed Under the weeping moon live on Ghost Reveries tour. I will try and stay positive on the upcoming releases, and Axe as an Opeth drummer I don't know how good thats going to be but its a challenge to replace Lopez.

one post from mike really changes your complete opinion of...well...everything, doesnt it?

 

[Alteredmindeath]

one post from mike really changes your complete opinion of...well...everything, doesnt it?

Na nothings reallly changed, it just depends on the state of mind.

 

[Rocky Raccoon]

Na nothings reallly changed, it just depends on the state of mind.

yea your state of mind changes after Mike posts so your right

 

[Alteredmindeath]

Yea it was cool to see Mike post, but nothings going to change due to this thread.

 

[GianMT]

geez, man opeth still rocks

 

[Don Corleone]

Yea it was cool to see Mike post, but nothings going to change due to this thread.

please shut up. do you think that we are all stupid or fucking blind or that we cant read? we saw what you wrote, you got your tail between your legs after mikael's post. you first said it's a step down with each release, then you said you liked gr more than deliverance.

now tell me, how can anyone on this forum place any value on any of your opinions or views when you cant even stand up for them? so, once again, please stop trying to defend yourself any further 'cause you're looking like a complete idiot.