J the TyranT
Thats just how it is...
Cmon now man that's a very trollish comment. Suckage is subjective so thats a bit unfair to people who dont dig the track. It is what it is, man
Opeth single The Devils' Orchard
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Exciting stuff! I knew that this would be in the line of 'throat of winter' so it doesn't surprises me. It's even better than I thought. Growls in Opeth started to sound forced and mechanical. Good move here.
The song has surprised me in every change. That's great since predictable bands are the ones I hate the most.
Productionwise, the mentioned drums are one of the things I like the most. Really natural, they really feel like you're sitting in front of the drummer while he jams. Great.
We are currently in a trend where some bands want to sound natural and 'vintage' in some way. It's a bit stupid but the ones who appreciate dynamics and not-squashed-to-death-recordings will have a good amount of amazing sounding records in the years to come.
The song has surprised me in every change. That's great since predictable bands are the ones I hate the most.
Productionwise, the mentioned drums are one of the things I like the most. Really natural, they really feel like you're sitting in front of the drummer while he jams. Great.
We are currently in a trend where some bands want to sound natural and 'vintage' in some way. It's a bit stupid but the ones who appreciate dynamics and not-squashed-to-death-recordings will have a good amount of amazing sounding records in the years to come.
Empathy
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Amen.
I consider Opeth to have ceased being Opeth from Watershed and beyond. They're now the Mikael Akerfeldt Experience.
RemoWilliams
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Very true. Guess "suck" is a bit too broad of a word, but then again, people who don't like it, won't like it ever and people who do like it will like it either way.
This.
Secretly, I'm hoping they play this stuff for a little while with nobody turning up to their shows. Realistically, they'll probably play a 60/40 split of back catalogue + new stuff. It'll be weird standing there at gigs with all the metal dudes while they prog out. Already feels awkward thinking about it
Folkrav
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I can't help but thinking how this would have turned with Martin Lopez on drums.
God I miss him. I pretty much stopped listening to Opeth since he left. Axe can surely drum, no doubt about it, but Lopez was so... Lopez.
God I miss him. I pretty much stopped listening to Opeth since he left. Axe can surely drum, no doubt about it, but Lopez was so... Lopez.
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I think they were always the Akerfeldt Experience to some degree. It kinda took a turn towards the self-indulgent on Watershed, and seems to have slid down from there. It's now tantamount to listening to someone ejaculating on themselves (ie. Dream Theater et al). The whole thing feels arbitrarily forced, like 'here's how its going to sound... I'm gonna cram all my old-timer influences in this song'. In the late 90s and early 00s I think they just wrote music that sounded good, and the 'prog' part came naturally after. They sounded like Opeth, not a hodge-podge of 70s has-beens.
Skinny Viking
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funny, my wife and I were just talking about that last night when listening to the song and after hearing it neither of us misses Martin anymore
Axe fucking threwdown on this tune, can't wait to hear what else is in store
Folkrav
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funny, my wife and I were just talking about that last night when listening to the song and after hearing it neither of us misses Martin anymore
Axe fucking threwdown on this tune, can't wait to hear what else is in store
Heh, from now on I guess it's a matter of opinion. I just... feel Lopez more. I don't know, it's probably that I'm already sold to his style. As I said I've been listening to Opeth for a so long time (Still Life, been enjoying the Orchid and in-between stuff too), and I can't get a hang on the newer stuff... And I just feel that Lopez' drums were a big part of how much I loved Opeth.
To complete on that, IMO, Damnation is such one of their greatest albums despite it being "acoustic"/clean, but it fit the Opeth universe so well. I just can't get into their latest stuff, as I feel it's getting away from what made Opeth be Opeth.
RemoWilliams
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I don't know, I don't see any forms of them 'ejaculating' on themselves. Actually, I find it all very tasteful and melodic and song-y. I feel we probably disagree on all things musical, but that's cool, too. A conversation on music is always a good thing.
Skaldir
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I'm a bit confused by the direction. On Watershed "Coil" and "Burden" have been my favourite songs and I guessed they would go in that direction. Progressive in terms of interesting harmonical sturctures.
But now its that psychedelic progressive stuff I don't dig at all.
But now its that psychedelic progressive stuff I don't dig at all.
wishtheend
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A band making music for themselves? Awesome
I actually think this is a far more interesting way to go than if they would have stayed anchored to death metal. I think they explored all the brutal stuff for so many years, it's pretty refreshing to year something progressive like this and more rooted in their personal influences rather than holding onto just one style.
I actually think this is a far more interesting way to go than if they would have stayed anchored to death metal. I think they explored all the brutal stuff for so many years, it's pretty refreshing to year something progressive like this and more rooted in their personal influences rather than holding onto just one style.
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Im imagining this track in their usual DM style production and sound, it would be just a next opeth album.
This is quite different now, and i dig it.. people will hate it, people will love it.. but at least they stay true to what they want to play.. i find this very refreshing!
allthough i can understand opeth fans being dissapointed by this as well.. but hey, they stay true to theirselves and not what people want them to play.
This is quite different now, and i dig it.. people will hate it, people will love it.. but at least they stay true to what they want to play.. i find this very refreshing!
allthough i can understand opeth fans being dissapointed by this as well.. but hey, they stay true to theirselves and not what people want them to play.
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I like the song and I'm looking forward to the album. Although Blackwater Park and Ghost Reveries are my favorite albums, I wouldn't mind hearing some more Burden and Porcelain Heart style songs on the new one.
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Maybe I'm listening to a bad mix/rip or maybe my ears are still a bit weird from the flu I've got/had, but I don't like this mix. Sounds very amatuer. Muddy guitars and buried drums (which I love, by the way, but they're too soft), the whole mix is an oversaturated mess.
Song is nothing special either.
Song is nothing special either.
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It's like saying music sounded amateur in the 70's.
The reference here is clearly " In the Wake of Poseidon" or "Lizard" from King Crimson.
They succeeded in capturing a bit of that vibe imo.
You may not like it but that's the sound they were going for obviously.
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