Opeth using open tuning?

[wankerness]

and they do it pretty well too.

I ACTUALLY LIKE A FEW OF THEIR SONGS! :X Anyway, another band I thought of that does it is "And You Will Know Us By the Trail of the Dead."

 

[Valtiel]

not sure how the tunings will affect the actual music at all

Doesn't matter, but I swear to God they go drop d, dumbed down nu metal tunning, I will lynch every one of them...

#referance to In Flames...

 

[[KOTNO]Narrot]

they already used dropped d dude...i guess you didnt even notice

in blackwater park (the song) and demon of the fall

 

[Valtiel]

they already used dropped d dude...i guess you didnt even notice

in blackwater park (the song) and demon of the fall

I meant the dumbed down overbearing kind, the type synomous with nu metal...

#again In Flames as a referance...

 

[[KOTNO]Narrot]

oh, i see . but i guess they you couldnt lynch them then because they already would've commited suicide if they noticed that they ended up numetal...

 

[Kenneth R.]

I ACTUALLY LIKE A FEW OF THEIR SONGS! :X

(third eye blind)
i honestly love all 3 of their cds. the 2nd one i think is the best.

 

[affinityband]

''#referance to In Flames...''

Inflames dont use drop d tuning, they use A# F A# D# G C . an whatever is said, inflames arent nu-metal, but then again compared to Opeth i suppose they are

 

[Don Corleone]

i've always known what an open tuning is but now that you've explained it so well, [KOTNO]Narrot, it's much much more clear in my mind. but how does one go about pressing the ordinary chords on an open tuned-guitar?

 

[Arnold Layne]

I tried to learn bullet ride on guitar and it sounded like it was in C#, but i could be wrong.

One of my favourite Opeth riffs could be classified as a dumb riff, the riff that peter plays behind mikes solo in blackwater park, one heavy riff.

 

[[KOTNO]Narrot]

i've always known what an open tuning is but now that you've explained it so well, [KOTNO]Narrot, it's much much more clear in my mind. but how does one go about pressing the ordinary chords on an open tuned-guitar?

Heh, thx

the question you ask depends on what actual tuning you use (there are millions of possibilities). the chord-playing is imo the most interesting thing about open tuning because there are tons of new ways to build up chords when you have a different tuning.
For your actual question: Imagine you tuned to open d-minor (i am more of a 'minor-guy' so it's DADFAD.

the normal chords you got in d-minor are 1. d-min, 2. e-min(w/diminished 5), 3. f-maj, 4. g-min, 5. a-min, 6. Bb-maj and 7. c-maj)

so here's the following chords



--1.--2.--3.--4.--5.--6.--7.
D|0---2---3---0---2---0---2---|
A|0---1---3---2---0---1---3---|
F|0---2---4---2---4---2---2---|
D|0---2---3---0---2---0---2---|
A|0---1---3---2---0---1---3---|
D|0---2---3---0--(2)--0---2---|



So this would be one possibility to play the ordinary dmin chords in an open d-tuning (note there are various possibility).
Generally you make chords up the same way as in standard tuning. take the keynote of the chord you want to create (eg. D), look what what third it has (in dmin this is F) and for its fifth (which would be A) and then try to figure out how to play only those three notes on as many stings as possible.

The dmin-chord as written above will never sound like a dmin-chord in standard tuning but it is the same chord and that is specifically one of the aspects that make open tunings interesting because even if you play regular chords you got new colours in your sound.

i hope that was kinda helpful, if not feel free to ask...and also i apologize for possible faults i made i dont have a guitar right here and so i had to figure it out in my head which doesnt make it more easy.

edit: formatation of the tabs

 

[Valtiel]

''#referance to In Flames...''

Inflames dont use drop d tuning, they use A# F A# D# G C . an whatever is said, inflames arent nu-metal, but then again compared to Opeth i suppose they are

Well could of fooled me, they went from such an influential melodic death to an almost nu metal band, fucking disgrace if you ask me...

oh yeah I forgot to mention my anti-nu metal group:
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anti-NuMetal/

 

[deliverance]

in flames plays in c.

 

[Don Corleone]

Heh, thx

the question you ask depends on what actual tuning you use (there are millions of possibilities). the chord-playing is imo the most interesting thing about open tuning because there are tons of new ways to build up chords when you have a different tuning.
For your actual question: Imagine you tuned to open d-minor (i am more of a 'minor-guy' so it's DADFAD.

the normal chords you got in d-minor are 1. d-min, 2. e-min(w/diminished 5), 3. f-maj, 4. g-min, 5. a-min, 6. Bb-maj and 7. c-maj)

so here's the following chords



--1.--2.--3.--4.--5.--6.--7.
D|0---2---3---0---2---0---2---|
A|0---1---3---2---0---1---3---|
F|0---2---4---2---4---2---2---|
D|0---2---3---0---2---0---2---|
A|0---1---3---2---0---1---3---|
D|0---2---3---0--(2)--0---2---|



So this would be one possibility to play the ordinary dmin chords in an open d-tuning (note there are various possibility).
Generally you make chords up the same way as in standard tuning. take the keynote of the chord you want to create (eg. D), look what what third it has (in dmin this is F) and for its fifth (which would be A) and then try to figure out how to play only those three notes on as many stings as possible.

The dmin-chord as written above will never sound like a dmin-chord in standard tuning but it is the same chord and that is specifically one of the aspects that make open tunings interesting because even if you play regular chords you got new colours in your sound.

i hope that was kinda helpful, if not feel free to ask...and also i apologize for possible faults i made i dont have a guitar right here and so i had to figure it out in my head which doesnt make it more easy.

edit: formatation of the tabs

aa great one there, thanks mate

"The dmin-chord as written above will never sound like a dmin-chord in standard tuning but it is the same chord and that is specifically one of the aspects that make open tunings interesting because even if you play regular chords you got new colours in your sound." -----> just tried it...yeah. simply fascinating. it is d minor but very different from the one in standard tuning. this works great on my classical.

cheers for the whole trouble

 

[[KOTNO]Narrot]

just tried it...yeah. simply fascinating. it is d minor but very different from the one in standard tuning. this works great on my classical.

cheers for the whole trouble

no problem, dude. glad you like it

 

[affinityband]

'in flames plays in c.'

Check the tabs darlin. well the new album is definatley a lot lower than c, because thats what tuning i use normally.

 

[deliverance]

well last 2 records suck, so i'm not counting them..when they were good, they played in C..and please don't call me 'darlin' ever again...only Trey can.

 

[protocolnone]

my tuning

C#F#BGBE

 

[[KOTNO]Narrot]

thx for sharing

 

[ThePoisoning]

i thought i read somewhere that in flames used C# on the new album, but either way, the new album blows like no other.

wow...i think i understand this open tuning shit now. sounds like more of a hastle.