Orphaned Land / Suidakra US tour???
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General Zod
Ruler of Australia
I actually don't think it will be that high, but even if it is, it goes to my original point; this tour won't draw (outside of NYC, where anyone can draw).
Zod
Too many older Jews in Skokie (IE - my grandparents lived there).
You may want to go more of the Northbrook / Buffalo Grove / Highland Park route.
As I said, I don't think you will get Chicago non-metal Jews unless you specifically advertise in the local Jewish newspapers. Not sure who would bear that expense. Furthermore, I think the better question is if the venue itself views this as a potential "cultural" event. Considering the Bottom Lounge primarily hosts punk shows, and now caters to metal to fill the present void, it's just another show to them.
General Zod
Ruler of Australia
LOL. Hey... I'll be there. I also intend to count the number of people who don't look like they belong there. 
Zod
Zod
LOL. Hey... I'll be there. I also intend to count the number of people who don't look like they belong there.
Zod
Ha! I am just goofin.
I am always on the lookout for a good opportunity to post that GIF
General Zod
Ruler of Australia
eaeolian
Division Guitarist
I suspect it might draw quite well in the DC area, if they don't make the stupid mistake of bypassing Jaxx and playing at Sonar. (DC people who have a casual interest will *not* drive to Baltimore for this.)
Chrisf
Member
I'm not sure I follow you... if you can get on any train line in Chicago, you can get to this show with a single transfer. They all connect in the loop, and it's a free transfer. The fact that this place is 3 blocks from the Green/Pink line means it's one of the better places to get to by public transit... and it's only 2 stops outside the loop, so it's not a long ride if you do have to transfer.
And even Metra stations are a short 2 block walk to connect to CTA trains, so people who want to go that way should be covered. About the only thing to worry about is the last train time for Metra... which might be about 12:30 for some train lines.
What exactly do you mean by "solid local support"? Word of mouth from the local scene? A local opener?
Diabolik
Member
nomisofsiman
Member
Shows in Chicago RARELY go very late. At the absolute latest, they will get out at midnight which has happened to me only twice, Malmsteen and Queensryche at HOB. There's no reason one can't make it. Whether you do metra and walk or do CTA, or if you're truly paranoid, one taxi ride back isn't gonna rape you if you're with a group.
Diabolik
Member
well my freind....welcome to the world of Reggies and Bottom Lounge. Almost all Reggies shows get out at 2 AM. They dont even start till like 9:30 PM. The Bottom Lounge too. They start a bit later. Since they cater to the over 21 crowd.
All depends on the age limit of each show. I saw Ace Frehley at the HOB, I left around 12:30 am and he was still playing but the show was 21+. Everytime I've been to Reggie's I've left pass 1am.
Yeah I hear ya, it seems that in this area people literally find an excuse not to go to shows.
Chrisf
Member
Maybe... but this one is listed as starting at 7pm (I've never been there so I don't know how the club runs). Of course there's multiple openers... well, it's no problem for me, so I'll be getting tickets shortly. But I just wanted people to realize that if they're on the Brown, Red or Blue Lines that they can figure this is only about 10-15 minutes longer than going to the loop.
skyrefuge
Member
Finally the right answer! If you only go to all-ages shows, then yeah, they all end early. They're required to, due to Chicago's curfew law. Otherwise, not so much. Of all the independent clubs, Reggie's actually has the most early-ending shows, because it has the biggest all-ages focus. Looks like Bottom Lounge has 8pm as the default start time for most 17+ (the curfew-free age) shows, which also puts it earlier than places like the Empty Bottle or Schuba's/Lincoln Hall, where 9pm/10pm starts are the norm, so getting out after 1am is quite common for me.
And thankfully, unlike the suburban metal clubs of yore, there's almost no guesswork involved. All the clubs list the start times on their websites, and they basically all start predictably these days (first notes are played 15-30 minutes after the listed start time). Bottom Lounge included, from my experience. Many clubs now even post the exact start and end times for each band at the door, which is awesome.
So point is, no need to generalize and speculate about Orphaned Land ending late. Five bands, starts at 6pm (according to bottomlounge.com), assume 30 minutes for openers, 45 for middles, 90 for Orphaned Land, 15-minute changeovers, and that puts you at 10:30-11:30 for the end.
Definitely an odd lineup though, especially if Indian actually plays between Suidakra and Orphaned Land as currently listed. Opener Via Vengeance:
"a one man punk band!"? The quote pulled for OL is kind of odd too: "The loudest, heaviest and most controversial music on earth can act as a universal language." Sure, it's in their bio, but it doesn't even strictly refer to them.
Neil
BenMech
student of the d'eh
Actually, yes, they all are., having gotten that answer from Kobi.
The bigger problem is that Jewish does not necessarily mean being Metal friendly.
AngraRULES
Member
Interesting. I based my statement on an interview I did with Kobi back in 2005. He mentioned that although they all come from jewish backgrounds, they didn't consider themselves jewish in the religious sense.
That is absolutely correct. As in Christian and Muslim as well.
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